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	<title>Comments on: Voices from the Flats &#8211; Dangerous Cost Cuts at Alyeska Pipeline</title>
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		<title>By: strangelet</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2010/07/06/voices-from-the-flats-dangerous-cost-cuts-at-alyeska-pipeline/#comment-204876</link>
		<dc:creator>strangelet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot of content to this article.  One general conclusion that stands out is that BP, by its own admission, has decided that &quot;efficiency&quot; (aka &quot;cost reduction&quot;) is more important than &quot;effectiveness&quot; (aka &quot;actually doing integrity management&quot;).  What could possibly go wrong?

A small point that struck me, as an old middle-management budgeteer, was:  

An internal Alyeska email sent to employees in February said the company expects to save about $4 million by reducing its “real-estate footprint” in Fairbanks.

$4M over what period of time?  They haven&#039;t (intentionally) reduced staff, so there are no labor/benefit cost reductions.  One does not need a particularly large office to accommodate 30 people -- at 100 sq ft per person plus 50% for common area, that&#039;s 4500 sq ft.  A quick google suggests that lease rates are no worse than $3/sf/mo, so, very loosely, $162K per year.  Even if you throw in $2K a month for power, heat, water, etc, you&#039;re still below $200K per year.

So if the $4M savings is from abandoning a lease, the payback (without any NPV calculations) is 20 years.  If it involves selling a property, what was BP doing with a $4M+ (&#039;cause the $4M has to be PROFIT, not sales price) building for only 30 people?  And, if it was, in fact some large building that had gradually emptied out, they could still sell it, and lease space for the 30 folks for less than $200K per year, see above.  The saving from &lt;i&gt;moving&lt;/i&gt; the people to Anchorage would still only be $200K per year (likely quite a bit less).

Possibly the announced saving actually comes from a larger amount of &quot;RE footprint&quot; adjustment, of which this is just a small part.  In that case, the PR is extremely misleading.  I&#039;m sure we&#039;re all shocked at that possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of content to this article.  One general conclusion that stands out is that BP, by its own admission, has decided that &#8220;efficiency&#8221; (aka &#8220;cost reduction&#8221;) is more important than &#8220;effectiveness&#8221; (aka &#8220;actually doing integrity management&#8221;).  What could possibly go wrong?</p>
<p>A small point that struck me, as an old middle-management budgeteer, was:  </p>
<p>An internal Alyeska email sent to employees in February said the company expects to save about $4 million by reducing its “real-estate footprint” in Fairbanks.</p>
<p>$4M over what period of time?  They haven&#8217;t (intentionally) reduced staff, so there are no labor/benefit cost reductions.  One does not need a particularly large office to accommodate 30 people &#8212; at 100 sq ft per person plus 50% for common area, that&#8217;s 4500 sq ft.  A quick google suggests that lease rates are no worse than $3/sf/mo, so, very loosely, $162K per year.  Even if you throw in $2K a month for power, heat, water, etc, you&#8217;re still below $200K per year.</p>
<p>So if the $4M savings is from abandoning a lease, the payback (without any NPV calculations) is 20 years.  If it involves selling a property, what was BP doing with a $4M+ (&#8217;cause the $4M has to be PROFIT, not sales price) building for only 30 people?  And, if it was, in fact some large building that had gradually emptied out, they could still sell it, and lease space for the 30 folks for less than $200K per year, see above.  The saving from <i>moving</i> the people to Anchorage would still only be $200K per year (likely quite a bit less).</p>
<p>Possibly the announced saving actually comes from a larger amount of &#8220;RE footprint&#8221; adjustment, of which this is just a small part.  In that case, the PR is extremely misleading.  I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;re all shocked at that possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaska Pi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaska Pi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>;-)
untidy  but not scandalous...</description>
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untidy  but not scandalous&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Krubozumo Nyankoye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krubozumo Nyankoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would there were an edit function. I neglected to adequately proofread and the last paragraph is somewhat scandelous.</description>
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		<title>By: Krubozumo Nyankoye</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2010/07/06/voices-from-the-flats-dangerous-cost-cuts-at-alyeska-pipeline/#comment-204123</link>
		<dc:creator>Krubozumo Nyankoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bubbles:   I just saw a post at the oil drum that states that 80% of the worlds oil resources are already nationalized.  There was a time when most utilities (electricity for example) were regulated monopolies. When electricity was deregulated in a few years Enron came along gaming the market and costing Californians billions of dollars. No one in government lifted a finger to even look into what was happening. Turns out that Enron would create artificial shortages of power to keep raising the prices.  Some industries should be nationalized in the interest of society as a whole but the mention of the word socialism as we have seen over the past 19 months is a dog whistle for the rabid right wing free marketers who are very happy with 10% of the population owning 80% of the nation&#039;s wealth.  It keeps the rabble in check.

The world spends $2 million *per minute* on oil consuming 1,000 barrels *per second*.  But oil is fungible, that is to say it trades on an open market. Opec does not control the price, it controls a large fraction of the production which affects the price. 

In a typical situation such as private production of oil, (read here BP) decisions are generally driven more by short term considerations of profitability than long term considerations especially when one of the major impacts of consumption is a totally externalized cost. Carbon dioxide. So taking a risky decision to cut a few corners and save a few million dollars ends up costing probably 100,000 times as much as might have been saved. 

Something conservatives are very proud of is their firm belief in &#039;social responsibility&#039; so long as those shouldering said responsibility are at the mercy of the markets. When it comes to multi-national corporations, not so much. The wild allegations of a government shakedown forcing poor helpless BP into putting up $20 billion in escrow to cover the damage they have inflicted on millions of people is, I think, sufficient testimony to why socialism is not just a good thing in specific cases, but an absolute necessity.  There was a great hoopla about the ultimate crash of Enron and the illegalities they engaged in, including corrupting their all too willing accounting firms. I don&#039;t recall every hearing of a singe California citizen or business being reimbursed one dime for the billions of dollars defrauded from them by Enron. Where did the money go?

Where did the money Madoff stole from people go? So what if he is in jail. Where is the money?

In a sense the castarophe of the GoM is a good thing, it provides an apt analogy. We are literally swimming in it, but it is our society, not just a body of water. On the one hand we have the water which is largely benign, and with it we have oil, which is not deadly to the touch, but over time very ugly. Society is similarly constituted, there is a vast majority, 270 million people roughly who live from pay check to pay check. Then there are roughly 30 million or so, but really only 3 million who are the creme de la creme who literally own everything else. That car you drive, that house you live in, virtually anything that costs more than a few hundred dollars is really owned by someone else, some bank, some lender, some usurious trader in coin. 

I need to STFU but I want to make one more point. Suppose you have &#039;owned&#039; your own home for roughly 20 years and suddenly you are laid off (a euphemism for fired) from your job. After some time being unable to find a new job that will pay your obligations, you miss a payment on your mortgage, then another, you are foreclosed by the lender, they evict you and sell the property at auction. Yet for low those 20 years you paid some portion of principle and hence had &#039;equity&#039;.  But under forecloser the lender takes all. Your equity in the property is ceded by default. Does anyone here think this is fair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bubbles:   I just saw a post at the oil drum that states that 80% of the worlds oil resources are already nationalized.  There was a time when most utilities (electricity for example) were regulated monopolies. When electricity was deregulated in a few years Enron came along gaming the market and costing Californians billions of dollars. No one in government lifted a finger to even look into what was happening. Turns out that Enron would create artificial shortages of power to keep raising the prices.  Some industries should be nationalized in the interest of society as a whole but the mention of the word socialism as we have seen over the past 19 months is a dog whistle for the rabid right wing free marketers who are very happy with 10% of the population owning 80% of the nation&#8217;s wealth.  It keeps the rabble in check.</p>
<p>The world spends $2 million *per minute* on oil consuming 1,000 barrels *per second*.  But oil is fungible, that is to say it trades on an open market. Opec does not control the price, it controls a large fraction of the production which affects the price. </p>
<p>In a typical situation such as private production of oil, (read here BP) decisions are generally driven more by short term considerations of profitability than long term considerations especially when one of the major impacts of consumption is a totally externalized cost. Carbon dioxide. So taking a risky decision to cut a few corners and save a few million dollars ends up costing probably 100,000 times as much as might have been saved. </p>
<p>Something conservatives are very proud of is their firm belief in &#8216;social responsibility&#8217; so long as those shouldering said responsibility are at the mercy of the markets. When it comes to multi-national corporations, not so much. The wild allegations of a government shakedown forcing poor helpless BP into putting up $20 billion in escrow to cover the damage they have inflicted on millions of people is, I think, sufficient testimony to why socialism is not just a good thing in specific cases, but an absolute necessity.  There was a great hoopla about the ultimate crash of Enron and the illegalities they engaged in, including corrupting their all too willing accounting firms. I don&#8217;t recall every hearing of a singe California citizen or business being reimbursed one dime for the billions of dollars defrauded from them by Enron. Where did the money go?</p>
<p>Where did the money Madoff stole from people go? So what if he is in jail. Where is the money?</p>
<p>In a sense the castarophe of the GoM is a good thing, it provides an apt analogy. We are literally swimming in it, but it is our society, not just a body of water. On the one hand we have the water which is largely benign, and with it we have oil, which is not deadly to the touch, but over time very ugly. Society is similarly constituted, there is a vast majority, 270 million people roughly who live from pay check to pay check. Then there are roughly 30 million or so, but really only 3 million who are the creme de la creme who literally own everything else. That car you drive, that house you live in, virtually anything that costs more than a few hundred dollars is really owned by someone else, some bank, some lender, some usurious trader in coin. </p>
<p>I need to STFU but I want to make one more point. Suppose you have &#8216;owned&#8217; your own home for roughly 20 years and suddenly you are laid off (a euphemism for fired) from your job. After some time being unable to find a new job that will pay your obligations, you miss a payment on your mortgage, then another, you are foreclosed by the lender, they evict you and sell the property at auction. Yet for low those 20 years you paid some portion of principle and hence had &#8216;equity&#8217;.  But under forecloser the lender takes all. Your equity in the property is ceded by default. Does anyone here think this is fair?</p>
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		<title>By: Alyeska CEO Kevin Hostler RESIGNS; Jason Leopold on The Shannyn Moore Show 1st Hour &#171; SHANNYN MOORE: JUST A GIRL FROM HOMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyeska CEO Kevin Hostler RESIGNS; Jason Leopold on The Shannyn Moore Show 1st Hour &#171; SHANNYN MOORE: JUST A GIRL FROM HOMER</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] staff of his resignation Wednesday morning – one day after Truthout published an extensive investigative report that was highly critical of his management of the company and revealed details of alleged [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bubbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if it would be a good thing if we nationalize the oil industry. i know it&#039;s all socialist stuff and such. but would it be good idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if it would be a good thing if we nationalize the oil industry. i know it&#8217;s all socialist stuff and such. but would it be good idea?</p>
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		<title>By: CityKid</title>
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		<dc:creator>CityKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 08:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered what will happen when the pipeline gets shut off? I&#039;ll bet anyone, right now that U.S. taxpayers bear most of the cost - or the shit will just leak out into Alaska.  

Any takers?   You pay the interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered what will happen when the pipeline gets shut off? I&#8217;ll bet anyone, right now that U.S. taxpayers bear most of the cost &#8211; or the shit will just leak out into Alaska.  </p>
<p>Any takers?   You pay the interest.</p>
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		<title>By: karen marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be unbelievable if we weren&#039;t already experiencing the benefits of BP cost-cutting in the gulf.

Clearly the gulf spill hasn&#039;t cost them enough money yet for them to get the idea that stinting on inspectors and maintenance is a false economy, because so far it hasn&#039;t been.

It&#039;s just too bad that more of our irreplaceable environment has to be destroyed before corporations like BP are made to pay the actual cost of their negligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be unbelievable if we weren&#8217;t already experiencing the benefits of BP cost-cutting in the gulf.</p>
<p>Clearly the gulf spill hasn&#8217;t cost them enough money yet for them to get the idea that stinting on inspectors and maintenance is a false economy, because so far it hasn&#8217;t been.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too bad that more of our irreplaceable environment has to be destroyed before corporations like BP are made to pay the actual cost of their negligence.</p>
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		<title>By: AKjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>AKjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clean,fed,an raren to go just hope my humor lasts before food coma sets in.
After reading all this my take is that the upper management of BP is much like A trailer trash family. I know they are soooo snooty but that&#039;s what i see. They are saying that the old pipeline/truck is is just going to break all the time. How can we put more money into this pipeline/truck even though it is what brings in the money. Honey you can jez git a third job an we kin take that there money an git a new flat screen an i could watch while i find some where else to work. An you know there are septic tanks every where and this would make septic pumping more profitable if i was out of business. 
Ok food coma is setting in.  BP knows this pipeline is aging and they could make more money if it failed by the impact on the world markets and the fact that they own the US military supply. These people are evil and sick. We see from how they handle all that they do from EVOS to the gulf. They are a Dick-tator with no land.  Someone needs to go to jail. Our government will let them slide. Perhaps with some pushing we can keep a spill from happening in the Yukon drainage or the Copper drainage.   
BP does not seem to care to keep the TAPS working. Is this something we should alert homeland security to????   Sorry i forgot they could give a scat..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clean,fed,an raren to go just hope my humor lasts before food coma sets in.<br />
After reading all this my take is that the upper management of BP is much like A trailer trash family. I know they are soooo snooty but that&#8217;s what i see. They are saying that the old pipeline/truck is is just going to break all the time. How can we put more money into this pipeline/truck even though it is what brings in the money. Honey you can jez git a third job an we kin take that there money an git a new flat screen an i could watch while i find some where else to work. An you know there are septic tanks every where and this would make septic pumping more profitable if i was out of business.<br />
Ok food coma is setting in.  BP knows this pipeline is aging and they could make more money if it failed by the impact on the world markets and the fact that they own the US military supply. These people are evil and sick. We see from how they handle all that they do from EVOS to the gulf. They are a Dick-tator with no land.  Someone needs to go to jail. Our government will let them slide. Perhaps with some pushing we can keep a spill from happening in the Yukon drainage or the Copper drainage.<br />
BP does not seem to care to keep the TAPS working. Is this something we should alert homeland security to????   Sorry i forgot they could give a scat..</p>
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		<title>By: Krubozumo Nyankoye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krubozumo Nyankoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems pretty clear that BPs primary interest in managing its 49% interest in the pipeline is maximizing profits. That plays well with their partners as well, also too.

The consequences of causing environmental disasters have not been all that dire considering.

Nor have the consequences of financial disasters.

So long as the master of the universe can act with virtual impunity and fear no consequence
we are all indentured to the demands of the banks, brokers and politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems pretty clear that BPs primary interest in managing its 49% interest in the pipeline is maximizing profits. That plays well with their partners as well, also too.</p>
<p>The consequences of causing environmental disasters have not been all that dire considering.</p>
<p>Nor have the consequences of financial disasters.</p>
<p>So long as the master of the universe can act with virtual impunity and fear no consequence<br />
we are all indentured to the demands of the banks, brokers and politicians.</p>
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