Quote of the Day – Rick Santorum on Contraception
Here’s one for you. It’s Rick Santorum on contraception.
“It’s not OK. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”
A Des Moines Register poll has Santorum within one point of Iowa Republican caucus frontrunner Mitt Romney, and well within the margin of error.
No abortion, AND no contraception. The good news is that if the Repubicans run any more to the right, they’ll simply fall off the edge of the Earth. It is flat, isn’t it?
And he knows this, how?
Pray tell us rick, how are things supposed to be?
….and this guy was a Senator ????
So it’s OK to manipulate the economy and let people lose their jobs and starve, but not OK to decide whether or not you want to procreate?
So even married heterosexual couples should only have sex when they can afford more children?
Or does he think unwanted kids should go unfed, unclothed, unhoused, or uneducated?
Or is he advocating for more social programs and higher taxes from the rest of us to support them?
So much for small government conservative. Again. Do the Republicans have any of those left?
yeah…. it’s called ” a small # of Republicans ARE the goverment, and the rest of us can just sit down and shut up….
I’m confused, Rick.
What things do contraceptives make possible that can’t be done without them?
I’m just curious….
Dear Mods,how much trouble can a person get into with you by suggesting certain birth control devices be placed on certain d@#@-heads and let them suffocate? For the good of the nation,doncha know.
Heh heh… Good one
Good one for sure…
Trouble? How about massive kudos for the idea!
just the regressives trying to tell the rest of us normal people what to do.
“How things are supposed to be” — according to … the New Testament?
Yet another reason why religion and public policy make poor bedfellows.
My thought exactly. “Counter to how things are supposed to be.” Would that be according to the Bible? Don’t think so. According to established law? Hmmmm. Wrong again. Would it be how it’s supposed to be in the world of regressive, repressive right-wing Republican presidential candidates pandering to the lowest common denominator of voters in a desperate attempt to come in in the top third of candidates in the Iowa caucus in 2012?
Ah. That’s it!
Bold and courageous move Rick. I look forward to you defending that position in a general election in November. Or anywhere Wednesday morning. Good luck tomorrow and I’ve been meaning to tell you ….LOVE those sweater vests. Thye look really natty. Hope they’re made in America.
He sounds like he would be the kind of “Catholic president” that people feared JFK would be….he thinks his religious world view is God given, and I’ll bet he really believes all “good” people think just the way he does.
Amen to that. But it’s even scarier that he’s not the only Catholic politician out there with that mindset, and I am saying this as a Catholic myself, be that as one who Santorum thinks is going to hell. The five conservatives on the Supreme Court. The Governor and Attorney General of Virgina whose first act was to try and cut benefits for the partners of gay state university employees. John Boehner, nuff said. Paul Ryan who apparently forgot that part about what you do to the least of your brothers,and on and on. The stereotype of the liberal Catholic politician like the Kennedys, or even John Kerry doesn’t hardly exist anymore. My question to Rick would be that if letting people use contraceptives and teaching safe sex makes them go all rabid bunny, is teaching someone gun safety going to make them go all Dirty Harry?
Sanatorium is running for Chief Cleric of a theocracy….
Exactly! And he’s not the only one running for that position.
Bingo
You would need be a scientist or mathematician to calculate the margin of error for rwnj. I’m torn debating whether these kooks are Homo Sapiens or are they de-evolving towards our common ancestors that first descended from trees. You hit it mikey,rwnj are directly related to trees-petrified ones at that.They modified their trunks to look like elephants,hence their political symbol. It all fits in the overall scheme of things. Now I can go back to sleep.
Santorum is a FORMER Senator from PA for several reasons. He was even too much of a right wing nut for his constituents (who are the ones who “cling to guns and religion” – when you are too “out there” for these folks, you are too out there). Also, he made a suburban Pittsburgh school district – and district tax payers -pay for cyber-schooling for his children WHILE THEY WERE ACTUALLY LIVING IN VIRGINIA!
I personally think his constant rants about gay marriage, etc., is a big pile of “methinks the lady doth protesteth too much.”
The fact that he got this far in the campaign – and is the “flavor of the day,” makes my eyes sore from rolling. He is a freakin’ sanctimonious nut case!
Rick is like the that kid who sat in the corner of your English class and thought he was intellectual because he’d read (or tried to read) Atlas Shrugged, the kid who argued that the right way was for everyone to simply listen to their leaders and then never could understand why everyone thought he was a dweeb. Santorum is by all reports a personally nice but not too bright, very sincere fellow who doesn’t seem to understand why people think he’s a potential fascist. Personally, I think he’s great. The further he, Bachmann, Perry and the rest of the Rethuglican clown car can drive the field to the Right, the more they are going to scare off independents into changing the channel back to reruns of CSI. They also will make it harder for Romney to straddle that divide between the independents and the crazy people – both of whom he needs to win.
This is why Vanerpoop from Iowa is supporting him!
In the “old Days”, couples were having 10 or more children.
The “pill” hadn’t been invented.
I am not surprised. Our own Rep Bob Lynn from Anchorage holds the position that birth control should not be covered by insurance because it is a ‘recreational drug’. But since Viagra treats ‘legitimate disease’ it should be covered.
Holy smoke. The Goppers get weirder every day. I wonder how they square this with their wives and daughters.
What do wives’ and daughters’ opinions have to do with it? Not to mention, women’s worst enemies come from within.
Now I know that I’m making a blanket statement here, and if anyone has a case disproving my statement, please tell me. Every single woman/daughter that I know that says that the man is the head of the household and that they’re subservient has a sanctimonious blowhard for a husband/father. It’s not even like these women are drooling over anyone even remotely worth having–someone smart, compassionate, forward thinking, having their best interests at heart.
Santorum is a compassionless, soulless person and I seriously have to question his wife’s intelligence and critical thinking skills to put up with this load of offal. I know people say he loves his family, but it isn’t love when you think some are naturally inferior to you or you only love your family.
All the men I know who are secure with who they are as men are more than happy to have women have equal rights. Only the insecure men want to suppress women. Yep, Pope,and Mormon President, that includes you, too.
What would Rick Santorum talk about during a State of the Union address? Sex seems to be the only topic he wants to address. What an idiot!
Perhaps the most absurd thing he’s done to date was taking home the dead fetus for his children to spend the night with when his wife was seriously ill during a pregnancy. His wife was five or six months pregnant when she got sick and the baby died.
I think he needs psychological help – soon. It frightens me to think that more the two or three people in Iowa might choose him to be the GOP presidential candidate. Actually it frightens me to think that the people of Iowa might choose any of the clown car occupants. . . .
These Republicans scare the hell out of me! President Obama – I see your being your President a second term. These folks on the extreme right are a class all by themselves. Thank God, they are a minority!
He sounds very warped to me. He is fixated on sex and babies. I think Russell Brand and himself need to get together for some serious counselling.
Romney, Paul, Santorum getting the nomination, Perry, or even Newt Gingrich, or almost any of them will help Obama in his reelection bid. The big questions are how much the new voter repression laws in Southern and other Republican states will depress votes and whether Democrats and sensible Independents have the good sense to have the enthusiasm to push Obama over the finish line.
OK Ricky, now tell us how you plan to ‘enforce’ yet another one of your cloistered ideas. I would imagine it to involve some sort of imbedded computer chip set to register when it detects an uptake in libido or other suspect bodily temperature rise. Then an agent of Rick’s army will be detached to our home to check for a valid marriage certificate, opposite sets of genitals, a clean prescription record showing no purchase of oral contraceptives nor little packages of lambskins or latex strewn around the boudoir.
Can’t this guy just give it up and move to the Vatican where they might understand and appreciate his way of doing things?
In Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965), the state of Connecticut fined the head of the local Planned Parenthood clinic and a local doctor under a state law that prohibited contraceptives. The Supreme Court tossed the law on the grounds that it violated the “right to marital privacy”. In Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438 (1972), the courts extended this protection to unmarried persons and struck down a Massachusetts law under which Baird was arrested for a FELONY for giving out vaginal contraceptive foam to unmarried people. The point here is that many of the readers of this site are old enough that we could have been thrown in prison for using foam or a condom during those early adventures at the drive-in movie. (What’s a drive in movie? Never mind.) This is recent history. While people like Santorum may seem to look like self-righteous fools (and they are), it wasn’t so long ago that they were running the country.
I heard recently that the Pope approves of the “pill”!!!!!! Maybe it’s a German thingy?
This is a man who after his wife miscarried at 20 weeks brought the deceased infant home from the hospital and presented the dead child to their living children as “your brother Gabriel” and slept with the body overnight before returning it to the hospital.
Sick enough for you?
Absolutely as sick as you can get!
That is the creepiest story around. And frankly, I’m amazed that the hospital let him do it. I can only imagine there was some huge amount of paperwork that someone got stuck doing. Eww.
Not only that, but he and his wife actually tell the story over and over as though it makes them admirable. Worse yet, there are people who admire them for it!
Too sick to imagine. He needs to be put in a home
I did not hear this story, but I read on a blog somewhere that his wife had to have a life saving abortion.(Yes, he is against abortion for any reason whatsoever). Could they have been referring to her delivering this possible stillborn child?
Santorum and his wife, Karen Garver Santorum, have seven children. One child was diagnosed with Trisomy 18, a serious genetic disorder. In 1996, a son, Gabriel, was born prematurely and lived for only two hours. (So not an abortion.) While pregnant, Karen Santorum developed a life-threatening intrauterine infection and a fever that reached nearly 105 degrees. She went into labor when she was 20 weeks pregnant and allowed doctors to give her Oxytocin to speed the birth.
Karen Santorum wrote a book about the experience: “Letters to Gabriel: The True Story of Gabriel Michael Santorum”. In it, she writes that the couple brought the deceased infant home from the hospital and presented the dead child to their living children as “your brother Gabriel” and slept with the body overnight before returning it to the hospital. The anecdote was also written about by Michael Sokolove in a 2005 New York Times Magazine story on Santorum. Karen is also the author of a book on etiquette for children. (ACK!)
As I said earlier, he’s mentally ill. I’ve never heard him speak about any issues of any importance to the real world. How could he have lasted so long? He’s been out of the Senate (thank God) for more than a few years now.
I think it was during this pregnancy that Santorum’s wife spiked a fever of 105 and the
doctors said the only drug they had to break the fever to save her life would likely end the pregnancy. Proving once again that the anti abortion crew is only against the procedure for those they have deemed less devout or deserving.
So agree with Pat of WA’s questioning that a hospital would allow this. Heck, they wouldn’t let me take home my kidney stone. There’s something very creepy and strange about his severely repressed judgmental man.
Yes, diz, but in all fairness they thought you were going to use the kidney stone as a paperweight, which would be REALLY CREEPY
Nothing like just taking it home to rot in bed with you for a day or so before “bringing it back”.
This story of theirs is just SO far fetched! Why would you bring it back to the hospital? Wouldn’t you take it to a funeral home? WTF with these people and their “I NEVER had an abortion” stories!
Well, he certainly makes Romney look mainstream! These guys are all kooks. And many of us serious Christians want everyone else to know that their brand of christianity (irregardless of denomination, their overriding beliefs are the same) that want they call “God” is NOT what we call “God.”
Dang straight, Baker’s Dozen! I’m a Lutheran pastor’s wife, and I cannot ever vote for any of these Republican candidates. Most of these so-called Christians are so far off the mark that I can only call them “Christianesque” – in other words, they may appear to be so but they certainly are not!
I believe that there is one God. However, I think that many people are mixed up and calling the wrong thing “God.”
I like the word “Christianesque.” That describes these Republicans perfectly!
Amen.
psminidivapaNo Gravatar says: stuff about his house
About that house in Penn Hills Santorum used as an excuse for getting his cyber school bill for free …. you forgot to mention that it was his official PA residence that allowed him to run as a Sen from PA. It is a 2 bedroom. 1 bath house. Great work for 5 kids, a nanny, wife, self and dog, When he tried to remain PA’s Sen and everyone was talking about his scam, he tried to use Homeland Security to keep the media from filming the charming doll house cottage.
Also his house in McLean,VA was bought and paid for by a lobbyist.
Just love these holier than thou type who steal and whine.
I think they have 8 kids? They lost one, but don’t know if this child was one of the 8.
Geez, from under which rock do these nut cases crawl out of? Worse yet, do people who support this type of thinking have ANY independent thought ability? How can you think this type of conviction is going to be supported or dealt with now a days?
I realize this was more the norm 50 years ago but something tells me the majority of women in this country would not allow for any advances made in this arena peddled back to that thinking. Even my mother, who was just newly married during that time would be out picketing this crap and believe me she is not an ‘activist’!
It’s really too bad that former Sen. Santorum’s mommy and daddy didn’t use birth control (or, at any rate, didn’t use it properly).
He’s the sort of person who makes me want to scream, “Your mother should have had the abortion she wanted!” I know, that’s not very nice, but I don’t appreciate men like him telling me what I may and may not do with my own body. Hey, Ricky! Get out of our fallopian tubes!
Maybe the Mrs. is promoting this idea so she has an excuse not to do the horizontal mambo with Ricky. “Not tonight, dear…I’m ovulating!”
Or maybe, based on his strangely obsessive focus on gay sex, HE’S the one looking for an excuse…
Getting rid of abortion rights is only the start for the right wingers of this country. Contraception is next on the target list. If a woman can’t control her reproduction then she has little control over the rest of her life, education, career, etc. Of course, it is all suppose to be left up to God will. Oh, and since the education of women is one of the best forms of birth control, they will go after that as well.
News flash! Santorum has just received an official endorsement from…
(drumrollllll…)
The Duggar family!
Now, if THAT doesn’t push him right to the top of the heap, I don’t know what will. Let’s hear it for taking our country back – right to the 18th century!
Is that the offal heap?
Ms Duggar recently had a miscarriage. I wonder if the tiny cadaver was presented to Sanitorium for his blessings. If the only people who endorse slick Rick are families with more than a hundred kids,America is probably safe from this menace.
My mind is reeling… Is Rick saying that contraceptives are a no-no SOLELY because the use of them will ‘encourage’ a male and female to enter into “a sexual realm” where they ought not to be entering AND that that unholy venturing will be forever secret because, *with* contraceptive use, there will be no resulting pregnancy?
Does the man have even a basic understanding of the sexual interactions possible between two [adult, consenting] human beings? Is he totally unaware that there are about a zillion ‘things’ a couple can do to (and with!) each other in the “sexual realm” that contraceptives have absolutely NO bearing upon? He does know, doesn’t he, that, for example, when it comes to [ahem] incredibly fantastic ‘toe-curling’, there is more than one way to skin a cat? Or that Teh dreaded eleventyone-Gays have no need for contraceptives? Is the man capable of thinking *before* he speaks?
And who are the people who agree with him on this? Is it legal to be that damned stupid? beth.
Obviously the “family life” education at his high school was sadly wanting. And so was the critical thinking skills class. Did he go to college with W. at Yale?
Every Sperm is Sacred!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8
No birth control + no abortion = to be followed by Republican budget cuts to all social/medical support programs for all those kids and moms. Such hypocrisy!
Why don’t these candidates like women?
Know who Karen Santorum reminds me of?
Joe Miller’s wife. She looks withdrawn, exhausted, and like opposing her husband is NOT a good idea. From the way she looks, I would think that being first lady is not something she would actually like to do.
They both look like trapped animals, old for their age and completely under the thumbs of their husband. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was some abuse going on, either psychological or physical. With that many children and no financial wherewithal, many women feel very trapped. I can imagine that Miller and Santorum would be like Joe Walsh when it came to child support.