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September 19, 2014

Palin is Pallin’ Around With Plagiarists?

Todd Palin, that is.  That’s because the plagiarist is none other than the Governor, herself.

Geoffrey Dunn over at Huffington Post read my transcript of Palin’s 17 minute introduction of Michael Reagan, and a little bell went off in his head.  He had a strange feeling he’d heard all this somewhere before…..(except in English)…..

(insert harp music here, as things get all blurry)

I realized I had read some of this before. So I tracked down the original Gingrich-Shirley article, “Republicans Need to Relearn Lessons of the Reagan Revolution” which appeared in the Union Leader, November 1, 2005, and is also online.

During the 2008 presidential campaign, Palin was accused by Daily Kos of plagiarizing a Hillary Clinton passage. In that instance it was, at worse, petty larceny; in this case, it’s grand theft.

Dunn goes on to compare passages of the original, and Palin’s knock-off.  Here are a couple of the eleven examples he gives:

8. Palin: So Ronald Reagan spoke to us then with us here in our hearts is where he reached us…. He captured our hearts so he could affect positive change by what he did. He focused on our kids, on our children, on their future, 
Gingrich/Shirley: The key to capturing the attention and, yes, the hearts of Americans is to focus on their future and their children’s future. Reagan understood this…

9. Palin: He stood strong on his knowing that the framework through which he believed that positive change that framework for our kids, it was freedom [sic]. 
Gingrich/Shirley: Successful governance means having a framework through which to lead the American people. For Reagan, that framework was freedom.

Ruh-roh…  Next time the governor sees Newt, she’s going to have some ‘splainin to do.

The whole article is a must read.  Click HERE to enjoy it in its entirety.

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182 Responses to “Palin is Pallin’ Around With Plagiarists?”
  1. empish says:

    CNN has picked it up! Rick Sanchez commenting on did she plagarize.

  2. mlaiuppa says:

    Turnitin.com was around 4 years ago. It was around 10 years ago. And they don’t have to scan the doc in. You just type in a phrase or a sentence. Turnitin scans the entire web for similar docs.

    Anyone remember the Harvard student with the publishing deal that “borrowed” from several different books for her novel? Made the media big time. Wonderful example of how paraphrasing is still plagiarism.

  3. mlaiuppa says:

    Samper:

    1. Sarah has no idea how to do proper research.

    2. Sarah has no idea how to provide a proper citation.

    3. Someone who cannot string together a coherent sentence isn’t likely to be able to correctly attribute sources so an audience can differentiate between citations and original thought.

    4. Sarah has no original thoughts. (One might question if she has any thoughts at all, given the strings of adverbs, adjectives, etc that seem to have no focus or point.)

    I think #4 is probably the most important.

    A woman who obviously slept her way to a bachelor’s degree is no matchh for Obama. Sorry, but the GOP can go ahead and put her up as their candidate. She is NO threat to Obama. And will be even less so in 2012. But they may do it anyway because she is a throw away candidate. They are sure to lose in 2012 and may not want to taint any viable candidate they may have for 2016, so they’ll need a sacrificial lamb. And she won’t even realize that’s why she’s chosen. She’ll actually believe it’s because she’s the “best” candidate. She’ll even believe she’ll win. Poor thing. I’m looking forward to the train wreck. Should be very entertaining.

  4. samper says:

    OMG! ON MSNBC RIGHT NOW!

    Yet ANOTHER “Repub Strategist” (Cheri Jacobus) and her points, summarized, lest I be accused of plaigiarism):

    SP is a self made woman!

    She didn’t come from a political family, a family with money, she didn’t marry into it.

    She was the VP candidate! (Again, when can we put this to rest? She is JUST a Gov now!)

    If they think they are going to “nudge her aside” at the dinner tonite and she’ll walk away quietly, they are underestimating her.

    They SHOULD make room for her!

    They know that if she were to come into power, some of them wouldn’t have jobs (they are AFRAID of her!).

    She’s a threat to Obama and folks are going to see that they are ready to get rid of the teleprompter (what IS it with these people and teleprompters? SP had a fist full of “notes” for her ill-delivered speech on Wed that she CONSANTLY was LOOKING DOWN at to read… how is that ANY different from having a teleprompter?)

    It was an “introduction”, and you can find it with EVERYONE (like this makes it right). Bios are all the same, so words sounding similar are inevitable (me, paraphrasing).

    This wasn’t a “bio” of Michael Reagan, idiot! It was barely an introduction. It was a SPEECH by Palin that she got almost verbatim from other printed work that was not duly recognized!

    Dorian Warren (Dem Strategist):

    Repubs are in disarray if they can’t make room for her … It’s akin to dissing Obama and replacing with Lieberman. I guess, in other words, he thinks that the party, also too, should have made room if she is such a “star”.

    IMHO: She shouldn’t BE a star if she can’t make a simple dinner decision and stick with it. These things are planned, choreographed, timed, practiced, etc. She can’t just waffle back and forth willy nilly!

    They need to get more organized and with ORIGINAL thoughts… good luck to them on that!

  5. samper says:

    I wrote my graduate thesis on “Marketing Post-Secondary Educational Institutions” at a Christian College (Spring Arbor University). How I came about it was that, when I graduated Magna Cum Laude, I wasn’t courted by the graduate program to continue. But I digress.

    One of the requirements of the thesis was to provide at LEAST 50 sources, even though the requirement for length of the thesis didn’t have to be anywhere near that comprehensive. The purpose was to have a well rounded knowledge of the subject matter and on both sides of the issue.

    My, and everyone else’s, thesis was LARGELY just compiling the information and cohesively constructing it all into a coherent argument. We all discussed our work at length in that class for a semester and all pretty much constructed our final papers the same way.

    I went back to look at mine. It’s got to be 90% reference to other published work! The thing is crazy with footnotes of attribution to original authors, including date, publication, page numbers, quotation marks, etc.

    MY work was done in consolidating the “best” and most widely accepted methods and arguments and then paraphrasing the overwhelming agreement on … you guessed it … the “best” way to market a university and its programs to graduates from HS and Undergrad programs alike.

    I didn’t claim to know this stuff… I claimed that I put together information from many sources to create a thoughtful strategy for universities.

    I got an A. And I didn’t have to plaigiarize to do it. And it wasn’t really all that difficult, either. I read, documented, summarized and put it together.

    Why would such a thing be so difficult in the preparation of a 17 minute speech? Why can’t she just take the article, appropriately attribute her words as being gleaned from that work, and THEN give her 2-cents worth of original thought?

    Different “Repub Strategist” (man, they have ALOT of those out there!) just on MSNBC says (again paraphrasing): She’s quoting a four year old piece on words uttered 30 years ago. The Repubs have to STOP looking back, STOP looking to Reagan, and start with their OWN stuff.

    BTW: With those plaigiarism databases and thoughts to get a hold of her prior “work”: First, the databases didn’t exist when I was in college, but it seems that a prof would have to … what? Scan the entire document and feed it into a program?

    Also, I had ALL my papers returned… the college didn’t retain any of them. The see2pee’ers keep wanting to see President Obama’s work from his university days and I wonder just how they think a university can release something I’m sure they didn’t retain. Harvard CERTAINLY doesn’t retain every piece of work from every student! They’d have to have entire buildings devoted to nothing but storage!

    Besides that, the student wouldn’t have had the work returned with critique. Back in the day, “copies” weren’t made (although mine was on a disk, I still have the only hard copy produced. I feel pretty confident that my prof didn’t stand at the copier duplicating each student’s paper… he’d have been an old man before we got them back!).

  6. ValleyIndependent says:

    let it run, I’m no attorney, but if a court determined she plagiarized the material, I don’t think the “everybody else is doing it” defense would help her much. I also doubt blaming it on the speech writers would work, since ultimately we are responsible for what comes out of our mouths, regardless of who told us to say it.

    I have no idea whether a charge of plagiarism would stick in a court of law in this case, but there has been no argument, even from her own attorney, about how extensively she used that article or that it was the sole source from which her speech was prepared, and there is no question that she did not identify the name of the publication, publication date, or co-author.

    We would have gotten roasted (and rightly so, I believe) by our teachers if we had so extensively relied on someone’s work, particularly a single work, and for not making it clear whether we were paraphrasing or quoting as we went along. We would have been considered unethical and lazy for not doing our own homework. Illegal or not, it seems unlikely she would want to let people know the extent to which she borrowed from a single 3.5 year old article instead of coming up with her own thoughts, especially since she has been previously criticized for being an intellectual lightweight and has touted her journalism degree. I suppose anything is possible, though.

  7. let it run says:

    Not for nothing: many people plagarize!

    Palin not at fault here. Yes, her speech writers PERHAPS could/should have identifed the source. BUT Palin has to steal the idea and declare them as her own. Not sure we’ve got that here. Now that you all but declared her a plagarist have you given her action for libel? Hmmmm, just wondering…

  8. ValleyIndependent says:

    Am I off base to think that not only should Palin have identified both authors, but also, since she used one source and so extensively, that she should also have identified the publication and publication date? Is that being too picky?

  9. EyeOnYou says:

    samper, sorry to hear you were banned over there. I read but have never commented. Don’t ever intend to either. I watch what they are saying & doing since despite their comments that they have no connection to Palin or her administration, they are able to get a lot of information really fast, sometimes before it shows up elsewhere.

  10. ValleyIndependent says:

    samper, I thought it was funny that while at nuts4nitwits they were claiming “she looked like she was dressed for church,” the photo they chose to post of the Memorial Day event had her standing behind a huge bunch of flowers so you could see very little of her legs and none of her shoes. Apparently they were afraid to show the picture Shannyn & Phil had (or link to it for proper attribution) lest their crowd see the inappropriateness of her attire for themselves.

    I also suspect that telling people the article was recent when clearly it wasn’t might have been an attempt to make it harder to find if they did look for the original work. Actually, if she had paraphrased it all to make it less recognizable, she might have gotten away clean, and if she had said she was going to read an article by Gingrich and Shirley and done so verbatim, it would have been perfectly fine.

    I bet her attorney just loves it every time she does something unethical – more fees for him. He’ll be able to retire soon at this rate.

  11. samper says:

    BTW: She says the article was “recent”. Why? It’s almost 4 years old.

    Don’tcha think maybe she was hoping no one would actually FIND it and compare her word salad to the original work?

  12. samper says:

    Nan: OF COURSE she’ll wriggle out of this! She has very expensive and demanding attorneys on her side that are threatening libel. And she has the base of the base who will die for her.

    That’s all she needs… that and the corrupt Personnel Board.

  13. samper says:

    I’m banned at see2pee! :-( I can’t read ANY of their ludicrous remarks! :-(

    But I did go to the ADN article for a few laughs.

    Perhaps it would be a wise investment for the see2pee folks to purchase a dictionary and look up the word “plagiarize”. They might be astounded to see that their Queen is GUILTY AS CHARGED.

    They keep saying, “SHE MENTIONED HIM TWICE!” However, she didn’t do so as she was butchering his words and neither did she cite the co-author – and equal contributor to the work.

    If you guys see any REALLY funny posts at see2pee, please post them here so I can laugh along with you!

    (PS: I’m banned because of my opinion that showing 90% of her thighs at the Memorial Day event was inappropriate and that the shoes are UGLY. What I find most amusing over there is that they delete or ban ANYTHING that doesn’t fall lock step in line with their dementia. Do they not LIKE the Constitution or what? What about that whole “Free Speech” thing? It just makes them look like babies throwing hissy fits.)

    Off to HuffPo to see the chaos over there!

  14. Nan says:

    I betcha two cents that because she mentioned Newt’s name at the beginning, and again at the end, she’s going to wriggle out of any repercussions. Serious ones, anyway. It’s not going to be a pre-iceberg iceberg, at any rate.

    It didn’t sound to me like she gave him “credit” for the quotes (however mangled) scattered throughout most of her speech, but what do I know?

  15. EyeOnYou says:

    Palin attorney demands that ADN remove the story regarding this subject and they are complying. It has been taken down from the front page of the ADN.

    http://community.adn.com/adn/node/141649

  16. mlaiuppa says:

    And now she’s been “uninvited” to speak at the fundraising dinner. Could it be because Newt is now the keynote speaker and no one wants her to plagiarize him that night?

  17. mlaiuppa says:

    KateinCanada: Turnitin.com is a subscription service. It’s not cheap and most teachers don’t subscribe to it individually, paying for it out of their copious discretionary income. It’s usually subscribed to by the school district or school site and teachers have access to it that way. It used to be you were allowed one freebie to test the site, but that was when it was new. No more freebies.

    You would think that major new organizations would subscribe so their journalists would have an easier time checking for…..”research” (as Tom Lehrer would define it.)

  18. Priceless says:

    Austin in Texas… dident she already ‘boink’ an intern? Who was Brad Hanson, anyway?

  19. justafarmer says:

    I hit “return” too fast. I’ll check in the morning and see who to contact about continuing negotiations. It’s 2 am here and has been a long day on the farm. Just finished shelling a “few pounds” :) of peas (they were more like a ton of peas!)

  20. justafarmer says:

    12 years!!!! oh my, Demetria! As a working journalist since 1982, I’m beyond upset about this. What country was working on negotiations for them? (Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark? I can’t remember….sigh)

  21. Demetria Nelson-McNaulty says:

    Breaking News 2 american journalists are given 12 years in N Korean Labor camps. Really upset by it, which brings to mind SP having a degree in Journalism and can’t even write or edit a speech. These women are real journalists in a Rogue Nation and this demwit is perpetrating a fraud.

  22. Demetria Nelson-McNaulty says:

    Is SP dense?, oops I mean is she stupid?, I mean does she not realize that people read and will recognize that the speech sounds familiar?, I am not shocked at what that female does, maybe Bristol receiving her HS diploma was given the job of speech writer. I hope know one in the government body helped to write the speech that is now recognized around the country of being Newt/shirley plagarized by -Failin Palin.

  23. sauerkraut says:

    The peelanders sure are infatuated with AKM, ain’t they, Aussie?

    Perhaps they is like 3rd graders… when they have a crush, they act like idiots. My take on it is that vido etc. have a massive crush on AKM. Luck girl ;-)

  24. Aussie Blue Sky says:

    I’ve always avoided reading at the red site but today I was feeling left out so I girded my loins and went there. I soon found myself scrolling down the page, skipping the quotes and looking for some original thought.

    The only interesting thing I noted was the writers’ constant name-calling of AKM. They find themselves constantly writing about AKM but are apparently unable to remember their manners when they do.

    Name-calling indicates impotent fury and it’s a hallmark of poor writing. AKM never resorts to name-calling under any circumstance. AKM does not write about them, nor even mention them.

    ‘Class will out.’ That’s British, you know. ;)

  25. woodstove says:

    You just can’t fix stupid. All you can do is steer it into a different direction. There will eventually be people who say to themselves, I can’t believe how stupid I was to support Palin. The only problem is that they won’t be saying that until they have thrown their support to the next flavor of the year idelogue spouting Reaganism.

  26. sauerkraut says:

    Lee – you are absolutely correct about how Newt views himself. He has long been bitter that neither Yale nor Harvard nor Princeton asked him to join their faculty after he left Congress. In his mind, he’s much brighter than anyone in CT, MA or NJ… and certainly brighter than anyone in the state of GA.

  27. sauerkraut says:

    123 sandra in oregon Says: June 7th, 2009 at 3:19 PM

    On the other site the “masses” are saying this is not plagarizing and Huffpo could be sued for libel. I suggested over there that there should be an unbiased arbitration. Should it end up in the courts? Who could make a decision on this?
    __________

    I believe the Courts have already ruled on this type of situation. Plus, her words would be the noose around her neck. If Palin were to file suit, you would see a much clearer example of “frivolous” as compared to the numerous ethics complaints. My guess is that unlike Biden – who was drummed out by fellow Democrats – Palin will simply keep on doing whatever she’s been doing, totally unaware of the damage to her political reputation. This is the kind of happy road apples that keeps donors far, far away.

    So, who really cares if vido or other peelanders wizz all over themselves?

  28. sauerkraut says:

    73 AlaskaDisasta Says: June 7th, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Good Lord, she can’t even plagiarize well. How can anyone with half an ounce of a brain take a perfectly lucid sentence and completely bastardize it into something not only unrecognizable, but something idiotically inane?
    ____________

    Well, that is the problem isn’t it? She’s got “half an ounce of brain. …”

  29. Lee323 says:

    137 Karin in CT Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 5:06 PM
    @ UK Lady hahahaha! Nice tip!

    And the plot thickens… My guess is that she can’t speak at an event where Gringrich is the keynote speaker and plagiarize him at the same time.
    —————————————————-
    That was my first thought, as well.

    As I posted on the previous post, the following satirical visual came to my mind of Palin and Newt at that dinner together:

    Uncle Newt, the ventriloquist, with his li’l dummy Sarah sitting on his knee mouthing his speech….

    I get the impression that Newt is NOT happy with this latest embarrassment by Palin. He surely regards himself as the intellectual heavyweight of the party who has put in the time, hard work, and study to gain that position….and along comes the shallow upstart who plagiarizes his words and ideas instead of doing the hard work herself. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he gave an ultimatum to the planners of the dinner regarding her status at the dinner.

  30. TBNTJudy says:

    Thanks, Karin. I really hate to do that to anyone. :-(

  31. Karin in CT says:

    TBNTJudy, no prob about spelling my name wrong:) I’ve been dealing with it all my life and it aint no big deal.

  32. GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble says:

    ‘s (smile)

  33. GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble says:

    austintx Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 6:13 PM

    144 GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 5:59 PM
    She’s really a fool if she thinks she can play this DC game as well as he intends to.
    *******************************************************
    She needs to boink an intern and then dump Todd , marry the intern , and then she can begin to get to Newt’s level.
    —————
    Well, she gonna need to boink somebody if she thinks she’s in the 2012 race.
    (Plus, she better quit f**kin’ over Alaskans, also, too.)

  34. Karin in CT says:

    Holy Toledo, I just went over to peeland and those people are truly pathetic. My favorite comments are the ones where they actually speak for GINO and can forecast her thoughts and actions. Blech!

    At least we know that if her POTUS run depends on the likes of them, she’ll lose by a landslide. Isn’t there something in the Bible about worshipping false Gods? Just askin’…

  35. TBNTJudy says:

    bucfan said: “Next thing you know she will go stand in the crowd at the Rose Parade and say everyone showed up to see her.”

    ROFL!! Priceless!

  36. austintx says:

    144 GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 5:59 PM
    She’s really a fool if she thinks she can play this DC game as well as he intends to.
    *******************************************************
    She needs to boink an intern and then dump Todd , marry the intern , and then she can begin to get to Newt’s level.

  37. GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble says:

    I bet Newt takes a pass on this. sarah sucking up ’cause he didn’t mention her as a possible contender; Newt walking on and not looking back. He’s seeing his star rising again and he sure as hell isn’t going to include her in his ‘ascent’. She’s really a fool if she thinks she can play this DC game as well as he intends to.

  38. bucfan says:

    Considering that the plagiarism story is hitting right before the dinner, and Keith is probably going to feature a story on it tomorrow night I’ll bet (somebody as Shannyn if she got the call yet), it isn’t that they don’t want her to upstage Newt, it’s that they don’t want to be embarrassed as a party. You know somebody will try to get to Newt before the dinner to question him about it. And “she” attracted 20,000 people? Next thing you know she will go stand in the crowd at the Rose Parade and say everyone showed up to see her.

  39. UK Lady says:

    Oh damn, gotta get some sleep, just when it’s getting fun. Party on guys, will check all the post in the morning when you are all snoozing.

  40. GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble says:

    UK Lady Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 5:15 PM

    Oh! Oh! My, this is just so funny, they are going bonkers in peeland.
    ——
    ‘bonkers in peeland’. Thanks for that visual. For so long, she has been so bonkers. Please let everybody see ‘in peeland’ and everywhere.

  41. TBNTJudy says:

    Oops. I mean Karin.

  42. UK Lady says:

    Oh! Oh! My, this is just so funny, they are going bonkers in peeland. Maybe the GOPs were scared she would start saying “screw” again.

  43. TBNTJudy says:

    Karen in CT said: “And the plot thickens… My guess is that she can’t speak at an event where Gringrich is the keynote speaker and plagiarize him at the same time.”

    Good one, Karen. :-)

  44. Karin in CT says:

    @ UK Lady hahahaha! Nice tip!

    And the plot thickens… My guess is that she can’t speak at an event where Gringrich is the keynote speaker and plagiarize him at the same time.

    “The reason given for the snub, said a Palin aide, was that NRCC Chairman Pete Sessions was concerned about not wanting to upstage former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, the fundraising gala’s keynote speaker.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23454.html#ixzz0Hnah82NB&C

  45. TBNTJudy says:

    honestyinGov, You beat me to it. I pulled the same quote and came to the same conclusion. Fantasy world.

  46. honestyinGov says:

    # 132
    UK Lady Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 4:41 PM
    She’S DONE IT AGAIN!!
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23454.html
    ——————————–
    Way to go UKL !!
    When I first read it I got the impression she was backing out ‘because Newt was there’… and maybe she didn’t want to see him after her speech -stealing moment.
    That was not the case though. I do love this comment by Stapletonge…
    Recounting the conversation Sunday, Stapleton said she told the NRSC staffer: “Why, at a time when we’re trying to build the party, would you pull a move like that on somebody who earlier in the day just attracted 20,000 people?”
    ——————————————-
    Continuing to tell the ‘Lie’ that GINO drew the 20,000 people there. As noted by people in NY… they said that was the number that showed up every year whether GINO is there or not. What a ‘ fantasy world’ they live in when working for GINO.

  47. Lee323 says:

    118 womanwithsardinecan Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 3:05 PM “He (Biden) was caught. He was punished. Are we supposed to punish him again but leave Word Salad Sarah alone?”
    ——————————————
    I thought your post was excellent as well. Your comment above goes right to the point of the hypocrisy of the Palin fans’ defense of her plagiarism.

  48. Lee323 says:

    126 mudkitten Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 3:32 PM
    —————————
    I think I remember reading something about that last fall. Maybe there are actually 6 changes of colleges instead of 5? Not that it would add any gravitas to her resume, eh? LOL. If you can find the information, please feel free to update the list. This current list has been floating around on the web for months.

  49. Ann K. says:

    What’s continues to astonish me is just how inarticulate Palin is, even when she’s using someone else’s words. Does she not know how to read either? Palin’s garbling of Gingrich’s fairly straightforward prose is beyond painful to read, let alone listen to. Have we (as a nation) really sunk this low intellectually?

  50. TBNTJudy says:

    womanwithsardinecan said: “What is this selective memory about when liberals get caught doing something wrong and get punished for it? Just shows their lack of reading skills and memory retention, not to mention their lack of ethical relevancy.”

    This says it all. Right now I’m wearing my t-shirt that says, “Bush lied. Thousands died. Impeach Bush.” Well, we all know how that turned out. He got away with it. When Bill Clinton lied about sex with Monica, all hell broke loose, and he was impeached. Special prosecutor Starr spent thousands and thousands of dollars to go after a man for lying about sex. Not only are we dealing with a lack of reading skills, we are also dealing with an extreme lack of critical-thinking skills. That really scares me.

  51. austintx says:

    124 Lee323 Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 3:21 PM
    Palin progressing her “degree:”

    “1982 – Hawaii Pacific College in Honolulu.,one semester
    1983 – North Idaho College, a community college in Coeur d’Alene, two semesters
    1984 – University of Idaho in Moscow, two semesters
    1985 – Matanuska-Susitna College, Alaska a community college in Palmer, one semester
    1986 – University of Idaho, where she spent three semesters completing her bachelor’s degree in communications-journalism in 1987″

    Now, at which of those fine academic institutions did our heroine skip the class on journalistic ethics, specifically the lecture on “plagiarism?”
    *******************************************
    Where did she get the D- in economics that she bragged about ??

  52. trisha says:

    Yes, the Palinbots are rabid, but it seems pretty clear to me that she used specific words, phrases and ideas from Newt’s article without proper credit.

    I’m glad there is a video.

  53. mudkitten says:

    I am pretty sure that she started out at U of Hawaii Hilo for one semester. Didn’t like it because it rains a lot there so then changed to HPU in Honolulu … kinda tells you that she been operating on low info input for a loooong time, doesn’t it?

  54. honestyinGov says:

    For weeks we keep hearing about this ‘ iceberg ‘ that is heading GINO’s way. And the general consensus was that somebody was going to have to force her hand to make something happen. This other ‘iceberg’ may still be coming and that would be icing on the cake.
    This simple little speech introduction was looked at as nothing major….and it shouldn’t have been. Nothing like the WAR nomination or Her veto of the Stimulus funds.
    It was GINO’s ego and arrogance that got the best of her and she just HAD TO make this her ‘ moment’. (That’s her style-with her goofy shoes and all)
    This should have been just a little blip on the radar.

    Rather than waiting for that slow-moving iceberg to just slide by to the side, she took control of the helm of the Titanic (S.S.Palin ) and drove her own ship directly at the iceberg… full-speed ahead. These previous infractions were sort of isolated to Alaska… but this latest move may have exposed her to everybody. Someone on her ‘own’ Personnel Board won’t be able to make a call and make THIS go away. I truly feel ( or hope )she has sunk her own ship with this last move. People in her Administration may realize she has turned the ship into the iceberg and they will jumping in the lifeboats to save themselves ( Talis Colberg comes to mind ) and escape the ship before it goes down.
    It sure will make an interesting chapter in Geoffrey Dunn’s book though.

  55. Lee323 says:

    Palin progressing her “degree:”

    “1982 – Hawaii Pacific College in Honolulu.,one semester
    1983 – North Idaho College, a community college in Coeur d’Alene, two semesters
    1984 – University of Idaho in Moscow, two semesters
    1985 – Matanuska-Susitna College, Alaska a community college in Palmer, one semester
    1986 – University of Idaho, where she spent three semesters completing her bachelor’s degree in communications-journalism in 1987″

    Now, at which of those fine academic institutions did our heroine skip the class on journalistic ethics, specifically the lecture on “plagiarism?”

    Wonder if Newt is happy that his “intellectual property’ was filched….

  56. UK Lady says:

    One of the comments on Kos

    “she can see Newt’s article from her house” :lol:

  57. sandra in oregon says:

    On the other site the “masses” are saying this is not plagarizing and Huffpo could be sued for libel. I suggested over there that there should be an unbiased arbitration. Should it end up in the courts? Who could make a decision on this?

  58. Priceless says:

    I think we need to go back to U of Idaho to see her papers for her journalism degree. Were they lifted from elswhere as well? Were they so wanting to get rid of her, they just kept quiet and passed it off?

    I wonder, who worte this speech? She’ll blame someone other than her. Now, I can’t wait for her book to come out! She’ll be lifting pages from Hillary’s book, and just changing names and locations.

  59. Whisky Otter says:

    The way Palin talks reminds me of an owner’s manual that’s been translated from Japanese to English, then to Chinese. I kinda get what she’s trying to say, maybe, sort of, but, wow…it’s so bad.

  60. womanwithsardinecan says:

    Funny how the Palinbots forget that Biden lost all chance at a bid for the presidency that year because of the plagiarism issue. I often used him as an example to my students about how much plagiarism can get ANYBODY in trouble. He was caught. He was punished. Are we supposed to punish him again but leave Word Salad Sarah alone? What is this selective memory about when liberals get caught doing something wrong and get punished for it? Just shows their lack of reading skills and memory retention, not to mention their lack of ethical relevancy. No, sorry you twits, somebody else doing it does NOT excuse somebody you like who is doing it too.

  61. Irishgirl says:

    I read Geoffrey Dunn’s post this morning. There were 20 comments. Now I see there are 823 comments. Way to go!!!

  62. crystalwolf aka caligrl says:

    duct idaho palin Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    There needs to be some kind of Babelfish “Sarah Palin to English” translator.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    this is funny

  63. duct idaho palin says:

    There needs to be some kind of Babelfish “Sarah Palin to English” translator.

  64. crystalwolf aka caligrl says:

    peeland is really upset!

    “Please alert Palin’s staff that Mr. Dunn’s false article is being used to libel Sarah across the blogoshere. Your contacts at popular blogs like Free Republic, Hot Air and eamT arahS should be alerted as well. They can get the word out quickly.”
    “Plagiarism is a serious charge that can damage a candidate’s credibility and reputation. Joe Biden dropped out of a Presidential Race in 1988 because of a plagiarism scandal (in that situation he actually did it).”

    Oh, so Joe Really did it but not Gino…that’s rich…SHE’s on tape doing it, on video, words transcribed!!!!
    Maybe she won’t come out smellin’ like a rose on this one….?

  65. KaJo says:

    bucfan Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 1:23 PM “….And reading Sahah’s comments again (my head hurts again), I would have come to the conclusion that the words were hers (as mucked up as they were) except for when she cited Newt. I just don’t get the fascination with her.”

    Ours, with her? Train wreck.
    Theirs (her fan-atics)? She’s “HOT”. And so much like them!!1!

    Anyway, the problem with her speech wasn’t that “the words were hers…except for when she cited Newt”.

    She threw all his words into a Salad Spinner and pulled them out, and except for ONE instance when she “cited” Newt (and not the other guy), she used his words in her typical mish-mash without further citation — repeated citation in every instance is the proper thing to do when you borrow someone else’s thoughts.

    Geoffrey Dunn said this, after Palin’s first “cite”: “At this point, things get very problematic. Palin continued on with her speech, using her own words while seamlessly quoting almost verbatim from the Gingrich/Shirley piece, multiple times, without citing it.”

    That’s a big problem — one that the see2pee’ers don’t seem to understand.

  66. PepperzMom (GA) says:

    Breaking news: Palin / Reagan video found! Shannyn’s site has it also…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/video-palins-lifted-speec_b_212329.html

  67. UK Lady says:

    SayNotoPIP @101

    LOL, lets hope it’s a ‘hit job’.

  68. clydedog says:

    I think you are on to something with “word garbage” (instead of salad). Actually “word swill” would be better. Traditional swill will include anything, and some parts are usually offensive to most people.

  69. clydedog says:

    I think the just leaving thing was a power play on her part. If you embrace the keynote speaker and turn the stage over to them, they are the center of attention. By spewing on forever, a quick turnover and leave, it is more about her and Reagan being equal speakers at the event.

    She did mention the Newtered Ones article about Reagan, and her editing did make it kind of unrecognisable anyway. It is all the same old rehashed crap and hate/fear.

  70. honestyinGov says:

    About Sarah’s recent pattern development about plagiarism…

    I don’t see the comment right now but someone earlier in this thread (not sure who to give credit to ) mentioned that someone does not ‘ suddenly’ at the age of 45 start acting like this with this kind of behavior as far as writing. It is something they learned and used and were probably never caught at it, so they continue to do it.

    Anybody who is writing a book (like Geoffrey Dunn) about Sarah would want to dig and get all the details of her life. This could get interesting now and Palin has opened the door for a little more investigation. This little episode makes you think that someone needs to go back to those college days and see what else she has turned in as ‘her own ‘ work. Did she start at an early age… probably.
    I’ll bet there will be some ‘researchers’ going back to those colleges she attended now. After all…GINO is all about total transparency, her words.
    Bring it on… the truth will set you free.

  71. Ripley in CT says:

    http://alaskareport.com/audio/palin.mp3

    Dennis Zaki’s audio of the plagiarism speech.

  72. ValleyIndependent says:

    KateinCanada Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 10:11 AM

    Lovely comment on HP from Stacy J.
    “She used to get her quotes from Starbucks coffee cups, now she’s getting them from written articles. She must be getting smarter.”
    —————————————————————

    LOL – Thanks for sharing. I had forgotten that bit.

  73. Cynamen Winter says:

    HonestyinGov asked:

    “Another nice helping of ‘Word salad’ anyone…?”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Thanks, but no thanks; I’ve had enuff already…but can you please pass the popcorn. :)

  74. samper says:

    Honesty in Gov @88: “I have never heard of this person but somebody in the Huffpo thread posted this link. It sounds like she is a Conservative (don’t know her history), But she REALLY lets Palin have it in this story, back on May 5th.”

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/05/tabloid_candida.html

    I went over there. Some comments are respectful, but still out there.

    Then, there’s a guy making up names for President Obama, like he’s a 12 year old school girl.

    Then, two more go into the “He’s not a U.S. Citizen” drivel.

    Another, while thoughtful and basically respectful, goes into why Christianity is so important in the running of this country.

    I let them ALL have it with both barrels!

    I’m so NAUGHTY! :-)

  75. trisha says:

    I thought Christians were not supposed to steal?

    Plus, I have some fundamental Christian family members and they DO NOT say “screw”.

    Have Dobson, Christianity Today, Pat Robertson and other fundamentalists heard this latest from Saint Sarah? I think they need.

  76. bucfan says:

    The thing I love is how her worshippers brought up Joe Biden as someone mentioned earlier. Aren’t these the people who constantly harangue us about “personal responsibility”? Yet when their heroes get caught, they immediately come out with “Well, Clinton did it” or Gore, or Kennedy, et al. And they forget that they wanted those persons heads at the time, but of course that shouldn’t apply to their Sarah. And reading Sahah’s comments again (my head hurts again), I would have come to the conclusion that the words were hers (as mucked up as they were) except for when she cited Newt. I just don’t get the fascination with her.

  77. Say NO to Palin in Politics says:

    maybe Scarah’s speech did make the national news? this twitter was June 5th

    http://twitter.com/AmandaCarpenter/status/2045840477

    Doing a hit on MSNBC re: Palin speech around 3:30

  78. wasillawarrior says:

    I love the “Scarah” that’s perfect…hooray for the Huffington post and Mudflats for getting the speech out there. Second and third graders could benefit from all the sentence structure no-no’s.
    The legs over turning the rejection of the stimulus money would really be the icing on the cake

  79. Gramiam says:

    Found this reference to GINO’s “Grand Larceny” of Newtie’s words on a lovely blog in Texas I visit. She has really done it now. There is NOTHING worse than stealing a writer’s words. Ol’ Sarah will rue the day she filched Newtie’s bon mots!!

    http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/#july21sc

  80. Say NO to Palin in Politics says:

    Sea of Pee groupies say CNN bought the speech footage and are “purposely” not running it. They’re quite vexed that miss Scarah is not getting enough media attention.

  81. Say NO to Palin in Politics says:

    sandra in oregon Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 11:15 AM

    I wonder if any of this is related to Bill McAllister’s leaving. Maybe she had relied on him for speech ideas previously.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    could be Sandra, she may have gone all mavericky and rogue on him, wanting to do it “her” way, just let Scarah be Scarah, they may have had a falling out over it, just speculation on my part. But she may have relied on him for input, editing and real speech writing. This may be her winging it on her own, which would show the quality of journalism she’s capable of, lol. She should keep going rogue, be yourself Scarah. Go Scarah Go, you can do it!

    Maybe she has campaign handler shock syndrome.

  82. Say NO to Palin in Politics says:

    Good idea History Goddess! be sure to share how this classroom exercise goes! could you video tape it? lol, please……it would be so much fun to hear a classroom go over Scarah’s word salad without knowing who the author is, classic! but perhaps mass confusion may occur, horrors.

  83. crystalwolf aka caligrl says:

    KaJo Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 12:15 PM

    I notice Geoffrey Dunn has tidied up his story one more time. That ought to send the chief Palinista at see2pee in another tailspin…. :)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Very good comments. What I love about them(@peeland)…. is they will turn it around and say, well our VP did it…? But neglect to say, when this happened to Joe Biden, he had used the same speech/quotes before and quoted source, he forgot on this one time, and he WITHDREW from the presidential race b/c of it!!! Now do you think GINO would have the same integrity???? NOT!!!!

  84. Star says:

    Toooooooo funny…She is soooo stupid…Thx Mr. Dunn for calling her out…Hey Sarah..See ya…wouldn’t want to be ya…LMAO

  85. KaJo says:

    I notice Geoffrey Dunn has tidied up his story one more time. That ought to send the chief Palinista at see2pee in another tailspin…. :)

    Two observations in the Dunn blog article comments that I think summarize what stance should be taken by thinking folks:

    1) By Torero126: “I think it displays laziness and lack of critical thinking skills. I agree, plagiarism is all over the place, but it shouldn’t be. Both sides are guilty of it. I think it rings louder when Palin, who received a degree in Journalism, commits the cardinal journalistic sin.

    Merriam-Webster defines plagiarism as:
    1)giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
    2)changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
    3)copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on “fair use” rules).

    #3 is her downfall here.”

    By damilitanton: (answering “indytarheel” below) “Of course it’s no big deal to you. You are upset that folks are accurately calling out Palin which is why the GOP kept her off of the cable news circuit and the Sunday morning talk shows because they knew that she would be exposed. What puzzles me is folks who try to defend Palin’s intellect when they all saw what the rest of us did.

    The lack of candor and honesty by the Palin backers doesn’t do anyone any good because this lightweight can’t ever be placed in a position to run the country’s affairs. She is not capable. Let her deal with Alaska and call it a day.”

    (Both were answering indytarheel who said: “Its only been awhile since a article that bashes Sarah Palin here on HP. So today we find this one. The smear continues from the left. Whats wrong with sharing the same ideas? Many blogs here are repeats from other articles, or same ole, same ole arguments used over and over. So she enjoys quoting NEWT….no big deal as far as I am concerned.”)

  86. crystalwolf aka caligrl says:

    Peeland is lying and saying the Dunn post was pulled and it was a hoax!
    They will stoop so low to protect their queen, lol…idiots :!:

  87. crystalwolf aka caligrl says:

    The Alaska dispatch has a article about GINO’s speech with a shout out to AKM :)
    http://www.alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/1221-palins-words-cause-confusion-and-now-frustration-

  88. lynnrockets says:

    It’s a glorious Sunday afternoon here in Boston. I am positive however, that our sunset will not be nearly as spectacular as that pictured on this posting. We are on the East coast though, and our sunrises are quite nice.

    It is too nice a day for me to let Little Miss Sunshine get me down. So, no comment about her just yet. I would just like to wish all of you a nice end to the weekend.

  89. I promise I’ll go read the article after I have some lunch – I’ll need strength.

    But the thing that strikes me is how confusing it sounds when Palin says anything and how rational the same thing is when it’s said by anyone else.

    Listening to Palin is like listening to someone in speech class when they forgot to actually prepare a speech but they have all the talking points, but they just aren’t in any organized state.

    Nice, that she lifted someone else’s ideas, but didn’t bother to credit them with any of it.

  90. honestyinGov says:

    The Dunn story on the front Page is now getting a LOT of traffic and comments.
    I have never heard of this person but somebody in the Huffpo thread posted this link. It sounds like she is a Conservative (don’t know her history), But she REALLY lets Palin have it in this story, back on May 5th.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/05/tabloid_candida.html

    It will be interesting to see what else she has written. There may be more ‘juicy comments’ out there.

  91. austintx says:

    82 KateinCanada – Check this and you can see almost any application you can think of.

    http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&q=catching+plagiarism&aq=0&oq=catching+pla

  92. KateinCanada says:

    History Goddess- what kind of data base does Turnitin.com have? Is is public or just accessed by teachers? If someone is supected of plagiarism to the point where they may have done it more than once, , could *all* of their wiritngs and speeches be checked using this screen?

  93. sandra in oregon says:

    I wonder if any of this is related to Bill McAllister’s leaving. Maybe she had relied on him for speech ideas previously.

  94. honestyinGov says:

    I don’t remember the original Headline wording of Geoffrey Dunn’s story yesterday on Huffpo… BUT it looks like the story headline has now changed. The story is still the same though.

    It is however… NOW on the ‘Front Page’….Woo hoo !!
    Hopefully the other MSM networks are watching the Huffpo headlines and are following the story.

  95. Cynamen Winter says:

    Before I go….methinks that Megamouth was probably the initial crook. Silly Sayrah simple took the bait to regurgitate… (sorry about the pun).

    GINO oughta know by now that in this life, you reap what cha sow; be that good or bad…and she might wanna start prayin’ for crop failure. On second thoughts…

  96. Gardenslug says:

    Did any of the local news stations cover this event and record this speech?

  97. Cynamen Winter says:

    Good job AKM and Mudpups! Keep beating the drums, for GINO’s daze are numbered! (sic) Now get out, and enjoy the day…capturing some rays ~ and good ol’ vitamin D. :)

  98. Lori in Los Angeles says:

    Kajo (again):
    “Implying that if “the left” can plagarize, well, then, it must be OK for “the right” — specifically her idol Sarah Palin — to plagiarize, too!”

    YES! This is ALWAYS their defense. When it becomes impossible to defend an action, the go find someone (a Dem) who has done the same or worse and then say it is “ok” because the dem did it too! Even though most of us would not defend illegal, unethical behavior in our own Party (not in a million years), they think this is all they must do (point out someone else’s bad deeds) to justify GINO’s transgressions. I have seen this “logic” more times than I can count over in the smelly sea of pee.

  99. Lori in Los Angeles says:

    Kajo says:
    “Pretty dam’n’d funny going over to see2pee and reading what occupies what passes for their minds this weekend.”

    I, too, wonder about the mentality of the folks at sea of pee. RMansour (Rebecca) does NOT seem stupid or awestruck. She and the videomia (sic) person seem the most capable of making coherent sentences, yet they twist or ignore facts to keep their Sarah looking good (an art in itself). Not sure of their motivation for ignoring the obvious shortcomings of GINO, but suspect it could be that they are one-issue voters (abortion). They go to the PD board and note who is participating; Then, those persons are not allowed to comment on the sea of pee site, NO MATTER WHAT THE ISSUE (no matter how unrelated to babygate), and those person(s) are banned. The remaining posters (about 97% in my estimation) seem very juevenille and uneducated. If you go to a fan site (like fans of Brittany Spears), the content is similar – it is celebrity worship usually found at Jr. High school level.
    Just thinking aloud today about what makes them tick. And wondering how many Americans are so basic/blind (I am sure it is under 20%, so I am not too worried).

  100. zyggy says:

    c4p are busy spinning all the neg comments. That chicky haras can do no wrong at all over there. Oh well, they are blinded by her red shoes. =)

  101. sandra in oregon says:

    Every teacher has stories about the stupid things that plagiarizers do. I’ve seen it with colleagues and superiors, also. It shows three things: 1) the person has a lack of principles, 2) he/she feels pressure to take such a risk, and 3) the person thinks others are not smart enough to catch it. All of these make you both angry and sad for the person.

  102. KaJo says:

    The chief Palinista at see2pee has issued her response to Geoffrey Dunn.

    (apparently Dunn edited his piece, taking out the comment that said,

    “During the 2008 presidential campaign, Palin was accused by Daily Kos of plagiarizing a Hillary Clinton passage. In that instance it was, at worse, petty larceny; in this case, it’s grand theft.”

    and “It’s a pure case of unadulterated plagiarism.”)

    She ends her railing at Dunn by referring to that long-ago instance involving Joe Biden, and saying this: “I am surprised that the left is suddenly so upset about plagiarism. So many of their fellow travelers have had “issues” with “lifting” other peoples work without citing their sources the way that Gov. Palin did twice.”

    …Implying that if “the left” can plagarize, well, then, it must be OK for “the right” — specifically her idol Sarah Palin — to plagiarize, too!

  103. HistoryGoddess says:

    I am almost done grading research papers. Our students must sign an honesty pledge and their papers also go through TurnItIn.com to catch plagiarism. We also have fun “googling” phrases to catch the same thing. Still, they try to slip in a few items that should have been credited. Any plagiarism results in an automatic zero. Less grading for me, but sucky for them.

    Tomorrow I will be using part of Dunn’s article as a sample of what not to do. I will black out the authors’ names, however, so it won’t seem as if I am going after any one group or person. I’ll throw in Biden’s example, too. I can’t wait to hear them complain about any confusing sentence structures they may have to read :)

    If they want to find out who these people are, they will have to do some research which should take them to some interesting sites!

  104. mlaiuppa says:

    How incompetent is Sarah Palin?

    She can’t even plagiarize correctly.

    She made a total word salad out of a speech she plagiarized! That takes real (lack of) talent.

  105. AlaskaDisasta says:

    Good Lord, she can’t even plagiarize well. How can anyone with half an ounce of a brain take a perfectly lucid sentence and completely bastardize it into something not only unrecognizable, but something idiotically inane?

    She’s like a Stepford robot run amok. Lol!

  106. KateinCanada says:

    Lovely comment on HP from Stacy J.
    “She used to get her quotes from Starbucks coffee cups, now she’s getting them from written articles. She must be getting smarter.”

  107. austintx says:

    61 BigPete Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 9:20 AM
    Since the GOP is currently rudderless, isn’t Gingrich the obvious source for incendiary diatribe?
    ************************************************
    He was doin’ it this morning.
    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/07/gingrich-racialist/

  108. KaJo says:

    honestyinGov Says: June 7th, 2009 at 8:53 AM “It sure looks like this a bad time to take off to NY for a little relaxing vacation for GINO. They have a LOT of cameras and microphones in that part of the country.”

    If she’s going to the Yankee/Tampa Bay game today, she better not relax TOO much. If Rudy and she sit behind the Yankee dugout, Rudy better have brought along a glove, or there’s a good chance Sister Sarah will have a baseball tattoo its stitches right on her forehead.

    It’ll also be a good chance for The Dude to show his reflexes, catch the ball in his bare hands…

  109. KaJo says:

    Pretty dam’n’d funny going over to see2pee and reading what occupies what passes for their minds this weekend.

    A LOT of their musings yesterday and today involve copy-and-paste of entire passages from IM, CDBO, and here, with subsequent frothings at the mouth.

    Nothing THEY say over there could/would induce any of us to reciprocate… :)

    I wonder sometimes what these people, who often produce REAMS of written bloggishness without resorting to such behavior, do for a living…what do they do “in their day job”? I hope they aren’t cheating some poor unsuspecting employer by spending so much time blogging on company time.

  110. greatgrammy1 says:

    Maybe Craig Shirley will sue her and increase her legal bills. She is all over the MSM today and full of critism everywhere except Fox News. Think she will ever give it up? Her children must be humiliated. I follow her in the news because she is a source of daily entertainment for me.

  111. ValleyIndependent says:

    oops – I can’t “think” this bodes well…..

  112. ValleyIndependent says:

    AKM, you amaze me, and I’m glad your work is paying off.

    It was hard enough listening to the speech in the comfort of my own home. No way would I have had the patience to transcribe such drivel.

    I feel sorry for her alma mater and anyone else who received a degree from there. Surely not all their journalism graduates are this illiterate and deceitful. I can’t this this bodes well for her putting that journalism degree to work on her book.

  113. Bystander says:

    Nothing, certainly not plagarism, will dimish Palin in the eyes of her nut base. The “icebergs” that may be coming, baby gate, house gate, etc. won’t either. I’m sure she could go after her family with a chain saw and the nut base will claim she was doing God’s work. This is why she is so dangerous and must be kept from any elected office.

  114. BigPete says:

    Grand theft Talking Points.

    Aren’t the Republicans supposed to parrot the same “talking points” in unison, incessantly, ad nauseam? Isn’t this “message discipline” Rove’s greatest contribution to the political discourse in our great nation?

    Since the GOP is currently rudderless, isn’t Gingrich the obvious source for incendiary diatribe?

    And it’s not as if Gingrich can complain. What are his chances of becoming the Republican Presidential candidate?

  115. honestyinGov says:

    It sure looks like this a bad time to take off to NY for a little relaxing vacation for GINO. They have a LOT of cameras and microphones in that part of the country.

    Will she be running from the cameras for the rest of her stay…?
    (ala the Bill O’Reilly gotcha News crew cameras)

    Her first interview… ‘trying ‘ to explain this is going to be good. There is NO WAY she can coherently explain the process without making it even worse.
    THIS… will be good. Another nice helping of ‘Word salad’ anyone…?

  116. duct idaho palin says:

    Whenever I listen to SP or read her speeches, I’m reminded of Garry Trudeau’s comic strip depicting Ted Kennedy in 1980. Ted’s giving one of his grandiose speeches with lots of flowery phrases, and all the reporters are standing there with pencils and notebooks, waiting to start writing, and someone finally calls out “A verb, Senator! We need a verb!”

    Even if the people at sea of pee (LOVE that) think she appropriately cited to Gingich, what about poor Shirley?

  117. samper says:

    Oh, and lookie there! I cut & pasted wrong!

    … most rested, most focused, and most sober…

    I forgot, also, too, that she orates “off the cuff” on twitter as well. What a mistake THAT is going to turn out to be! She’s going to make a HUGE error on that thing!

  118. samper says:

    sauerkraut: I agree wholeheartedly! That university should be ASHAMED at what they turned out. They have no business issuing journalism degrees.

    Especially when their “most famous” graduate is CONSTANTLY orating in public and in writing (via press releases, website, etc.).

    I’ve seen bloggers on this very site, tired distracted, and after a few glasses of wine (including myself :-) ).

    They sound a thousand times better and make far more sense than Palin at her most rested, most focusedmost, and most sober EVER could.

  119. sauerkraut says:

    39 Village Reader Says: June 7th, 2009 at 6:57 AM

    … ’WOW’. The woman can’t even plagiarize written words to make herself sound intelligent.
    ____________

    That’s the funniest part, isn’t it?

    Maybe she likes those bite marks on her arse.

  120. sauerkraut says:

    28 Carol.Seattle Says: June 7th, 2009 at 5:37 AM

    The woman is a clown. …

    _________

    Hey now… let’s not be picking on the clowns.

  121. sauerkraut says:

    samper Says: June 7th, 2009 at 5:33 AM

    She can’t even find 17 minutes worth of ORIGINAL material? As a JOURNALISM major?

    BTW: How is it they allow a Journalism major graduate before they can compose a grammatically correct and coherent sentence?
    ______________

    Whatever scholarly body accredited Idaho’s journalism program needs to withdraw the accreditation. It’s fairly apparent that Idaho teaches none of the important aspects of journalism. That is one university which should not be allowed to issue degrees in journalism. That program, based on what I’ve seen from their most well-known product, is a sham.

  122. honestyinGov says:

    AKM…..?

    You need to Twitter this news and create a little ‘buzz’ out there…. Please….;-)
    People following You need to know.

  123. sauerkraut says:

    Palin may be an original, but that doesn’t mean that the gibberish uttering forth is original.

  124. KaJo says:

    #48 samper, Geoffrey Dunn even mentions this himself:

    “While she cites Gingrich, she doesn’t mention Shirley and doesn’t make it clear the she is directly quoting and paraphrasing from the article at length….She then uses her own words, appearing that she’s finished referencing Newt.”

    and then Dunn points this out:

    [Palin: What Newt had written in this article, he wrote: "Remember how refreshing it was with his outrageous directness that Americans loved, and praised and deserved."]
    But that quote doesn’t actually appear in the article. The closest quote she may be referencing is:
    [Gingrich/Shirley: Candidate Ronald Reagan responded to the failures of the left with enormous clarity and directness.]

  125. sandra in oregon says:

    AKM: Thank you for transcribing that speech. If you had not, the plagarism would not have been uncovered. At the best we can think SP didn’t count on it being publicized. She figured nobody would know the difference. The only good thing about that is that it wasn’t as stupid a move as it seems to be.

    Newt will be speaking in her stead to a Republican group very soon (tonight?) and could reference this. Wonder what he will do.

  126. KaJo says:

    @ womanwithsardinecan ( June 7th, 2009 at 6:57 AM)

    I hope you didn’t mind — your timely “rules on plagiarism” found its way via me, over to Geoffrey Dunn’s comment section on the Palin Plagiarism” story in answer to a Palinista who was spouting the see2pee line that mere “acknowledgment” was sufficient.

    I attributed it to you, and copied you verbatim with quote marks in place, the way it’s supposed to be done… :)

  127. samper says:

    OK… She mentions Newt here:

    “Recently, Newt Gingrich, he had written a good article about Reagan. ” (Yet another grammatically incorrect sentence! Barf!)

    What she messed up so freakishly was written in 2005.

    To me, “recently” means something like within the last few months – 6 at the max – for this type of reference.

    Certainly, not 3.5 years.

    She was hoping that no one would FIND her copy cat stuff by referring to it as being “recent”, knowing full well it was NOT recent. Really, who’s going to look for “recent” in archives over 3 years old?

  128. JRC says:

    Sad thing is I’m sure she didn’t even understand what it was she was plagiarizing. Or *that she was plagiarizing* at all. What.a.moron.

  129. Eric-the-Bun says:

    I think I agree with possum.

    Basically SP read the article and didn’t understand it so pulled out sound-bytes and strung them together. The resultant mess is so far from the original that the “unique content” outweighs the miniscule amount of sense extracted from Newt’s article. Calling it plagarism is flattery.

    This is a woman who were she to attempt to copy the Mona Lisa would produce something from the Picasso school of art (kindergarten section).

  130. Marnie says:

    Why is it that the Regugs never seem able to say that Reagan was the first President to preside over a negative balance of trade, and was the first President to preside of a negative balance of oil trade.

    Under Reagan we became a debtor nation that imported more oil than we exported, or produced and they think he’s the greatest thing that ever happened to the American economy.

    And they accuse those of us who object to that kind of economics as anti-American.
    “1984,” indeed!

  131. Canadian Neighbour says:

    AKM,
    With all the material you’ve provided Mr. Dunn, he should consider you a co-author of the book.

  132. trisha says:

    It just shows the ignorance of her fan base. Just mentionioned the name Newt, does not negate the fact that she used his material without giving credit to the original author.

    As another poster mentioned, she clearly did NOT give Newt credit in each sentence where she rearranged his words.

  133. womanwithsardinecan says:

    And even if she cited Newt as the author of those phrases, she’d still get a D or F from me for butchering them completely.

  134. Canadian Neighbour says:

    Blue Idaho
    “Newt will let her of the hook for a lap dance in her red hooker shoes.”
    —-
    If that is the form of payment, do we hear a 3rd divorce? He’s displayed himself in the past as a “player in the field”. Or is his wife ‘star struck’ with politics & the attention that she would pretend she has no idea? They presently have a book out they co-authored. Not having researched Newt’s present wife I don’t truly know but I just don’t figure a wife to him has the smarts for a book.

    The thought of Newt ‘playing’ – I shudder at the thought. Creepy.

  135. womanwithsardinecan says:

    The rules on plagiarism are quite specific. Whether you quote directly with the exact words (has to be in quotes in written language) or paraphrase, using some of the key words, sentence structure, key ideas, you MUST cite a source specifically connected to the passages in question. If she was going to quote Newt, then she needed to keep all of the original language and cite him as the author of the quote (New Gingrich once said…), and if she was going to paraphrase him, she needed to give him specific credit for the paraphrase (to paraphrase what Newt Gingrich once wrote…). Just mentioning him at some point, without making a solid connection to the borrowed ideas and phrases IS PLAGIARISM. Period.

  136. Village Reader says:

    I read the huffingtonpost article and the comparison between Palin and the Newt/Shirley articles are ….’WOW’. The woman can’t even plagiarize written words to make herself sound intelligent.

  137. nswfm CA says:

    Maybe she delegated the speech writing TO Todd—didn’t he drop out of HS?

  138. Karin in CT says:

    Why doesn’t this surprise me?

    I hope this goes viral too–if only to read the twit’s tweet about it.

  139. Quince Squibb Underpinnings says:

    Suggested title for the Cliff Notes version of GINO’s new book:

    The Mendacity of a Dope.

  140. Ripley in CT says:

    heh heh *wringing of hands* This will bite her in the ass. It just looks bad. What a dolt she really is.

  141. Lori in Los Angeles says:

    They discovered the article at the sea of pee and guess what? Of course it is NOT plagierism, know WHY? Because, amongst the word salad, GINO mentioned the name Newt! So, that should have made it clear to everyone that she was quoting him! No facts, no logic needed – the GINO, once again, innocent of any possible wrong-doing.

  142. Largo says:

    ds55: re;word salad.Hahaha Yes! Tossed, with bad homemade dressing.

    Dim bulb ebonics. “Reagan have did see this”.

  143. trisha says:

    Why isn’t this a major headline on HP? It seems to be some pretty important news. This needs to go viral.

  144. trisha says:

    Palin can’t even plagiarize well. She takes Newt’s words, mixes them up, throws in some poor grammar and syntax, adds a few words that stir fear and hate, then spits it all up again as WORD GARBAGE (forget salad, this is garbage).

  145. Closet Mudpup says:

    I can’t decide which is funnier – Palin’s lying, deceitful ways being exposed (yet again), how badly she screwed up the material she plagiarized, or that she found Newt’s nonsense about Reagan to be worthy of plagiarizing.

    I don’t remember who deserves credit for the observation (maybe Jon Stewart), but whomever it was during the ’08 campaign who described her as “a woman who seems to have no first language” was spot on.

  146. austintx says:

    29 Aussie Blue Sky Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 5:54 AM
    samper Says:
    How is it they allow a Journalism major graduate before they can compose a grammatically correct and coherent sentence?
    ———————————————
    They gave her a degree to get rid of her. Wouldn’t you?
    ****************************************************
    They gave her a NED. A Nuisance Ejection Degree.

  147. Aussie Blue Sky says:

    samper Says:
    How is it they allow a Journalism major graduate before they can compose a grammatically correct and coherent sentence?
    ———————————————
    They gave her a degree to get rid of her. Wouldn’t you?

  148. Carol.Seattle says:

    The woman is a clown and an insult to anything Christian.

  149. redwoodmuse says:

    Now, *this* should go viral. Since it isn’t partisan, but clearly wrong, maybe it will affect some sp wobblies (apologies to all good Wobblies) . In any case, I say send it round the world.

  150. possum says:

    Now come on – How can any word salad that spills from her lips be considered plagiarism? My guess – she took 2 words from each sentence and then tried to make sentences out of the word outline. That might work if you have a normal IQ or better, but if you are challenged with thinking that all you have to do is say a few words and wink and all will be fine, well – we saw how well it worked. This is probably why it took, um, how many tries to get a degree? How many schools? Maybe she ran into profs who were not charmed by her little wink and grin routine. Ya think?
    Nah, she is off the hook on plagiarism… I mean, don’t you have to have at least one coherent sentence for that? also?
    And, AKM, she fled the stage because she spotted you and she had to make a potty run, FAST! Ya scared the, um, well, you know…
    Oh, another thought – maybe her water didn’t really break – remember that amazing story and the plane ride and suddenly POOF there is Trig! Maybe it was just another bad potty moment. I can see the commercials now, that little blue figure sitting down next to Palin recalling the moment she ran off the stage after dumping her plagiarized salad bowl…
    sorry. got carried away… just sayin’…

  151. samper says:

    OMG! Can this trainwreck get any more gruesome? She can’t even find 17 minutes worth of ORIGINAL material? As a JOURNALISM major? I bet they wouldn’t have even “blinked” if she cut it down to 15 minutes!!!

    BTW: How is it they allow a Journalism major graduate before they can compose a grammatically correct and coherent sentence?

    It’s literally painful trying to get through her monologues. Painful.

  152. rebekkah says:

    Her words were scrambled for sure. Unbelievable. Her great talent is “acting”. I can’t see any real sense she has any noble ideals or political accomplishments that issue from her heart. It’s like a robot has been sprung on the people. It’s is like a chameleon, taking bits and pieces of ideas from others and “creating” herself to be what others want her to be.

  153. Karen Coyote says:

    I wonder if the governor knows her oft-quoted Gingrich is not a global warming denier. Fondly remembering his ad campaign with Nancy Pelosi….www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

  154. austintx says:

    womanwithsardinecan – So nice to see you out and about !! Your post reminded me of the following site.

    http://www.plagiarism.com/

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    Please become our follower!

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  156. Anna says:

    In fairness… how many people think she actually “wrote” her remarks? This was probably the work of some staffer. Sloppy, stupid, and says a lot about her hiring practices, but she probably didn’t do the actual copying and pasting herself.

  157. Tewise says:

    So which one of her victims is she going to blame this on, so she can throw them under the bus. I have to agree with Paula, how the hell can you mess it up when someone already did the hard work in the original article. unbelievable

    Congrats AKM for the shot out from Mr. Dunn. He is right, I have no clue how you transcribed that gibberish. When I try to read what she says my brain automatically fixes it so I have to read it several times to see what she originally said. A good test, try to read that speech to another person, bet you can’t do it without rereading any part of it less than 3 times.

  158. womanwithsardinecan says:

    When I was a college instructor, one of my biggest problems was plagiarized material that students turned in as their own writing. They were under the false impression that if they substituted a couple of small words or just moved parts of the wording around, without citing a source, then it wasn’t plagiarism. They commonly produced word salad much like Palin and then got all offended when I pronounced that it was not only plagiarism, but ungrammatical plagiarism at best.

  159. Paula says:

    If she’s going to plagerize she should use the origional form. How can you botch plagerism like that? She is some ‘gramatically unedjuamacated.” Doit.

  160. Aussie Blue Sky says:

    austintx Says:
    June 7th, 2009 at 3:40 AM
    Nah , thrice married Newt ain’t worried about plagiarism. It’s paganism this freshly minted Catholic is concerned about.It’s critical and we are doomed I tell ya………
    ———————————————
    yup, they say he aborted two marriages ….

  161. Gindy51 says:

    “what made me really scratch my head was how Mrs. Palin and Mr. Reagan didn’t shake hands on stage.”

    It was actually worse than that. She fled the stage almost before he was on it. No eye contact let alone physical. Tail between the legs behavior if you ask me.

  162. jay says:

    Those words sound like they were scrambled in a washing machine and taped back together willy-nilly. They’re pure entertainment to read but I honestly don’t think I’d get through a live reading without at least one, “Oh, come on! Explain that!”

    However, in the original Mudlfats piece, what made me really scratch my head was how Mrs. Palin and Mr. Reagan didn’t shake hands on stage. Who does that? Even as the person you’re introducing is sharing the same space, you turn on your heels and go the other way. That’s a new level of “Huh?”

  163. Gardenslug says:

    Or, is that Katie Couric? I need coffee…

  164. Gardenslug says:

    I suspected this when I read AKM’s brilliant write-up of the speech and Palin used the term “detente”. If she is still in New York, let’s hope she runs into Catie Kouric and gets asked to compare/contrast detente and the Bush Doctrine.

  165. austintx says:

    Nah , thrice married Newt ain’t worried about plagiarism. It’s paganism this freshly minted Catholic is concerned about.It’s critical and we are doomed I tell ya………
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/06/newt-gingrich-americans-a_n_212235.html

  166. Mart from NC says:

    Maybe all her speeches should be checked for plagarism. There is an original thought in that empty head.

  167. Super Bee says:

    Holy word salad, Batman! Why does it sound so much more coherent when Gingrich says it?

  168. Lee323 says:

    Hmmmm….now in what chapter of “Everything I Learned About Life, I Learned from Playing Sports” did they talk about cheating being acceptable??…..Hey, Sarah!! Listen up! You’re not stealing the basketball from the offense here…. you’re stealing someone else’s words and ideas.

    Plagiarism is cheating…..illegal and unethical…..Way to stay classy, guv.

  169. Aussie Blue Sky says:

    *screams!*

  170. Aussie Blue Sky says:

    Nothing sceams “presidential” like mini skirts, p0rnstar shoes and copying someone else’s homework.

  171. Dame says:

    Well now if she didn’t write this herself it is going to get even more crowded under the bus.

  172. Blue Idaho says:

    Newt will let her of the hook for a lap dance in her red hooker shoes.

  173. califpat says:

    We all know that GINO does not have the wherewithal to prepare herself for an introduction and speech that is suppose to be instrumental in bringing Michael Reagan on stage. So, instead of doing any research or fact checks she gets her staff to find a speech that is already done concerning Ronald and has no shame in her game by copying or having it copied and uses it as her own. She was hoping that Newt’s speech would not be discovered and that people would think that she grew “one” a “brain”.

    I do not know if this is scary to anyone else but this frightens me and I do not even live in Alaska. If she will stoop to this level to cover her incompetency then what else is she doing as governor that covers her inept tracks? And let us not think of the unthinkable, if she had chosen as the VP, what under-handed things she would have been doing. She really thinks that she can be POTUS? We would be a “fourth” world country by the time she would be finished with wrecking the United States. Like her, we would be a joke!! I know our enemies are praying, burning candles, meditating, and sacrificing to their gods to get GINO in office.

  174. AKaurora says:

    One too many “i”s in plagiarists, but then again, that fits her!

  175. UK Lady says:

    Didn’t they destroy Biden for less, with a Neil Kinnock speech?, going in to read everything now.

  176. ds55 says:

    Ouch, my eyes! It’s impossible to read her word salad.

  177. Erin says:

    Well, at least we know she can read. Unless she got it on audiotape.

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