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[Snoskred]

In this area, you may speculate on matters related to the Bristol Palin pregnancy.  But as in other areas of the forum, you may not abuse other posters or be insulting. You also may not use profanity or refer to any poster, public figure, or child using rude or crude language. Posts that violate these rules will be deleted on sight.

As far as the forums are concerned Bristol Palin is a private citizen who did not ask for her private life to be publicly rummaged through.

Her mother may have dragged her into the spotlight with the outing of her pregnancy to all and sundry, but that does not mean we have to discuss her pregnancy and the birth (or possible non-birth) of Tripp here on the forums publicly for everyone to see. We are allowing this one thread in a private space.

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[MadCityKaren]

I've been waiting for any posting to start in this thread ... so am going to get the ball rolling and ask (respectfully): to which "pregnancy" of Bristol's are we referring? 

There are several reason that I ask this:  first, other than information seemingly only relayed by People magazine (isn't that where ADN got their verification from?), there has been no independent verification that Tripp exists.  Even then, dates and vital statistics have been a little wonky.  No pictures, no sightings in the interim of either Tripp or Bristol (or Levi, either for that matter).

Secondly (and this is mostly speculation/intuition on my part), from the moment that Bristol's "pregnancy" was announced at the RNC, I had trouble swallowing that.  My first instinct was that she (potentially) had the body of a post-partum, breastfeeding woman.  (And SP, despite her proclaiming that she was breastfeeding or pumping for Trig, simply didn't physically appear as though she could have been breastfeeding/pumping despite all those jackets she's fond of.  Just how much nutrition was Trig getting when she likely would have been directly pumping diet Dr. Pepper in the first place?)

I've still been hoping that there would be some pictures or sighting of Bristol with Tripp to quell many of the theories being bandied about, but to date, there hasn't been anything publicly available.  (Even my 80 year old father who thought that I was a bit  is beginning to wonder if people haven't been hoodwinked somewhere along the line ...)

Having said all this, I'm not certain that I really believe that Tripp exists ... a picture or sighting of Bristol & Tripp would go a long way to dispelling a lot of the conspiracy theories out there.

Anyway, if any of this 'pregnancy conspiracy' is ever found to be true, I'm certain that it'll only be a small part of the thread that unravels Sarah's sweater. 

[mustang]

Only AKrs know if any of this 'moderate' stuff is valid....

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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/tim_shipman/blog/2009/02/14/what_sarah_palin_must_do_next

it points out that this was in some regards a caricature that was thrust upon Sarah Palin; certainly it was not the way she was seen in Alaska before her emergence on the national stage. Here's the key section:

"Palin's social conservatism had never been the core of her political identity in Alaska. She always expressed general support for traditionalist views in interviews and debates ... but Palin never went out of her way to raise abortion or other social or cultural issues, and in her first two years as governor had not sought to change state policies in these areas. She was a good-government reformer with social conservative leanings, not the other way around."

IF this is valid---I dont use the word "truth" as we know how little there is of that with all these people--Why the switch?
Why did she feel the urge, desire, need to flaunt pregnancies, daughter bursting while stuffed in overly tight garment on stage, for one.
Was this simply and only, a push to collect the relig right....

Anyone ever consider a pregnancy taking place one year earlier?
2006-2007 and NOT 2007-2008?

[Lucy]

IF this is valid---I dont use the word "truth" as we know how little there is of that with all these people--Why the switch?

votes,  ambition

Why did she feel the urge, desire, need to flaunt pregnancies, daughter bursting while stuffed in overly tight garment on stage, for one.

ambition and taste of power as intoxicating as alcohol to some.  Resulting in a similar impairment of judgment.

[old salt]

Tonight (2/16/09) Greta Van Susterin will have a video of her latest interview with Palin that took place this past week-end.  Greta claims that she talked to Bristol and got to see the baby.  It will be more than a little interesting to watch this interview to see if the baby appears.  After all wouldn't it be all nice and cuddly on Greta's part to have a picture of her holding the baby??

[Kilia]

Please someone, let me know if the baby is true (baby in video with Greta).

[Irishgirl]

Yes, there was a baby...cute lttle fella.

[Kilia]

Thanks Irishgirl.

[AK Mama]

At this point, I don't believe a thing that comes from that family. Just because Bristol is holding a baby doesn't mean that it's hers (I know how cynical this sounds, but that's the point I'm at with these folks).

The only way I'd believe them now is if I saw DNA test results for both Trig and Tripp.

[BigSlick]

I am taking off my Moderator Hat when I make this post, it is my personal view and not to be taken as an official Moderator statement:

Well, I for one believe what they say about the kids.  I believe that Sarah endangered Trig's life by flying home to have him, an action which is much worse than if she'd lied and Bristol were the birth mother. 

I just hope Trig gets the proper medical/educational attention he deserves.

I got other beefs with GINO to focus on now though that don't involve harassing speculating about her kids.

Good luck with the court order for the DNA sample, let me know how that works out for ya!

[AK Mama]

Good luck with the court order for the DNA sample, let me know how that works out for ya!

I'm not implying that I'd get one, or even that I want one. All I'm saying is that no number of interviews with a baby, no number of proclamations that she is Trig's mom, etc, will convince me.

I realize that this is not the most heinous thing she's done, but every chink in her armor counts.

[BigSlick]

If she wanted to clear the matter up, she could and would very quickly.

The baby conspiracy is a red herring of Sarah and her advisor's own creation, they want you to chase it, they want an excuse to play victim, and every time anyone chases the baby conspiracy, it reinforces Sarah's strategy.

That again is my personal opinion. 

[AK Mama]

BigSlick, I totally agree with you. She could have easily cleared this up at any point, without involving her daughter. And as long as people focus on this, they aren't focused on bigger, more important issues.

I'm at a point where I don't care what it is that brings her down, so long as something does.

[nisperos]

Bristol Palin: Abstinence for all teens 'not realistic'. CNN, February 17, 2009:

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/17/bristol.palin.interview/

...It was "harder than labor" telling her parents she was pregnant.

"Well, we were sitting on the couch, my best friend and Levi, and we had my parents come and sit on the couch, too. And we had my sisters go upstairs," Bristol said. "And we just sat them down, and I just -- I couldn't even say it. I was just sick to my stomach.

"And so finally, my best friend just, like, blurted it out. And it was just, like -- I don't even remember it because it was just, like, something I don't want to remember."...

The network interview was Bristol's idea, the teen said. And she apparently sprung the news to her parents that she was going to speak publicly the day before the network taping...

(modified by Deep Blue to code link, per Truth Squad guidelines)

[twain12]

very good editorial in Salon

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http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2009/02/18/bristol_palin/index.html

my favorite line (last one)

And how poignant that the untrained and unrehearsed and inelegant message of the young woman who actually had the baby, the one who said, "I think everyone should just wait 10 years," made far more sense than the politicized jabbering of her elders.

[MadCityKaren]

All I'm saying is that no number of interviews with a baby, no number of proclamations that she is Trig's mom, etc, will convince me.

 

I also agree that GINO could have cleared it up quite easily if she had wanted to, but suspect that the sensationalism of the  conspiracy theory/ies at least keeps her name in the blogosphere.  On the order of it not mattering if it's negative or positive attention, but any attention being all that matters.  But for every person following the Trig conspiracy, there are others following the various other 'gates' plaguing GINO ...   

I do fear that unless she can be completely nailed on one of the many "gates" surrounding her, that she will manage to squirm away again.  And again, agree with AK Mama in saying "I'm at a point where I don't care what it is that brings her down, so long as something does."

[ds55]

... And again, agree with AK Mama in saying "I'm at a point where I don't care what it is that brings her down, so long as something does."

                               

[CO Almost Native]

... And again, agree with AK Mama in saying "I'm at a point where I don't care what it is that brings her down, so long as something does."

                               

I don't think it will be Trigg or Tripp, or whomever they belong to, that will bring Palin down.  Too many people are sympathetic when she is "attacked".  Facts will ring her down- tax facts, probably.

[BigSlick]

When people go after Trig and Tripp, it serves Sarah in two ways:

1) She gets the spotlight
2) She gets to play the victim card

So I am of the opinion that anyone who contiues to press her on the birth issues is falling into that trap and actually helping strengthen both of her agendas.

That is my personal opinion.

[MadCityKaren]

Facts will ring her down- tax facts, probably.

One would hope so ... but then, I had hoped that Troopergate would have been able to have been able to knock her down, however, she managed to squirm out of that for the most part.  (Admittedly, my hope was renewed briefly when former AG Colberg was grilled by the Legislature about the subpoenas and all of those who had ignored the subpoenas were found in contempt, but don't think that anything is going to happen with her "Abuse of Power" ethics issues ultimately.)